Get the Jab or You're Fired

[A_C Guy]

Houston Hospital Workers Fired over Vaccination Refusal

https://news.yahoo.com/houston-hospital-workers-fired-resign-234558586.html

A group of employees had sued Houston Methodist over the vaccine mandate, claiming the hospital couldn’t force workers to take an “experimental vaccine.” However, the suit was rejected by a federal judge last week.

In 18 months, we went from life as normal to you can not go anywhere without a mask (still in effect at the post office) to now businesses in several states requiring proof of having the vaccine to enter their building.

Another step closer to "You can not buy or sell unless you receive the mark on your right hand or forehead."

 

[Flash]

Their house, their rules.

 

[A_C Guy]

Their house, their rules.

They are supposed to be a medical service to the community, partly financed by our tax dollars.

The employees' choice to get or not get the vaccine does not in any way pose a health risk to patients.

As long as the care takers personal choice does not pose a medical risk, the requirement to get the vaccine is unconstitutional.

 

[Flash]

Last I heard they were going to take it to SCOTUS, but I strongly doubt they will as they'll lose massive amounts of money and they'll also lose the case.

There's nothing in the Constitution that says employers can't make certain demands of their employees that they believe is in the best interests of the company. The business world is full of things like this and this is just one more.

If they don't like it, they're free to go obtain employment elsewhere where they can do what they want.

 

[YNOTAZ]

One Fed court ruled against workers setting a national precedent. They are appealing but that ruling stands right now.

What I find interesting is the whole my body my choice argument gets thrown out and hospitals,
“medical professionals” are forcing this upon employees. The Fed has no liability, the Pharma companies have no liability, and side affects can show up in the next generation just like the clean room law suits currently going on against employers like IBM, Honeywell, Intel, Apple, etc.

I can’t wait to see how this shakes out but I agree with the employees. If they can be protected by OSHA for everything like slipping on floors, they should be protected against getting unproven drugs pumped into their bodies.

 

[Flash]

One Fed court ruled against workers setting a national precedent. They are appealing but that ruling stands right now.

What I find interesting is the whole my body my choice argument gets thrown out and hospitals,
“medical professionals” are forcing this upon employees. The Fed has no liability, the Pharma companies have no liability, and side affects can show up in the next generation just like the clean room law suits currently going on against employers like IBM, Honeywell, Intel, Apple, etc.

I can’t wait to see how this shakes out but I agree with the employees. If they can be protected by OSHA for everything like slipping on floors, they should be protected against getting unproven drugs pumped into their bodies.

No, my body, my choice doesn't get thrown out. The employee is free to seek employment elsewhere. What's going on here is the employees are trying to force their views on their employer. And yes, side effects can show up later, but that's true of thousands of things we eat, over the counter and prescription medications, bunny suits in the clean room, the list goes on.

Some people are afraid of their own shadows and if you don't believe that, take a look at the idiots riding around in cars, trucks, motorcycles and bicycles wearing a mask.

 

[A_C Guy]

What I find interesting is the whole my body my choice argument gets thrown out and hospitals,
“medical professionals” are forcing this upon employees.

I was wondering how long it would be before someone else showed the hypocrisy of the left. "My body - My choice" has been their rally cry for decades. Now they are conspicuously quiet when a conservative says it in regards to the vaccine.

If they can be protected by OSHA for everything like slipping on floors, they should be protected against getting unproven drugs pumped into their bodies.

Just shows how politically driven this scam really is. They silence doctors and reporters, they pass laws requiring a vaccine passport (despite it's obvious violation of HIPAA), and already they are setting precedent for no vaccine proof = no job.

 

[A_C Guy]

One Fed court ruled against workers setting a national precedent. They are appealing but that ruling stands right now.

What I find interesting is the whole my body my choice argument gets thrown out and hospitals,
“medical professionals” are forcing this upon employees. The Fed has no liability, the Pharma companies have no liability, and side affects can show up in the next generation just like the clean room law suits currently going on against employers like IBM, Honeywell, Intel, Apple, etc.

I can’t wait to see how this shakes out but I agree with the employees. If they can be protected by OSHA for everything like slipping on floors, they should be protected against getting unproven drugs pumped into their bodies.

No, my body, my choice doesn't get thrown out. The employee is free to seek employment elsewhere. What's going on here is the employees are trying to force their views on their employer.

You have it backwards. The employer is out of line by invading the employees' personal lives. This is no different than saying they will only hire vegans; or straight people; or socialists...

Again, not getting the vaccine does not pose a risk to any other person or patients. The risk to the person choosing to not be vaccinated is extremely small, you are more likely to get in an auto accident than die from not getting the vaccine. Recent data proves that Hydroxychloroquine is more effective and safer than the vaccines.

 

[Manitu]

I think once upon a time employers were not hiring smokers, I had quit by then but they claimed health care cost savings. Tough one but comes down to their rules vs. your job. Until such time as a court says no you can not do that this will spread. Concert venues etc. Yet they rely on a paper card available online.

 

[thom]

You play the game with my rules or go elsewhere to seek employment. I had to get a flu vaccine for the past 10 years working in a doctors office. OR I could have looked for a job elsewhere.
Just like having to take a drug test for employment.
They have no case.

Thom

 

[YNOTAZ]

Since the pharmaceutical companies can’t be sued, the government can’t be sued, and not even the government is forcing you to get shot, will all businesses be forced to carry medical liability insurance for massive law suits that can come up to 20 years later?

According to OSHA regulations an employer cannot legally force you to do something that is unsafe. If that applies to your work environment why not your entire physical existence or that of your offspring?

OK, I think the, "you cannot be a smoker, drinker, etc and still work here" is a real stretch, but they are not saying you must put nicotine or alcohol in your body in order to work here. I think the circumstances are different.

 

[xerts1911]

Time to fire up the printing presses and get the vac certificate’s on the streets

 

[338lapua]

Their house, their rules.

You are quite the freedom giving up boot licker aren't you. When it is approved you will say nothing in the constitution that protects you from having to take it in a pandemic.

 

[Jack Dupp]

338L, where ya been, man?

 

[Old Jeff H]

Which of the Covid vaccines have received FDA approval?

 

[kenpoprofessor]

Just got told that to work in Talking Stick Arena, they are requiring the vaccine. I guess that leaves me out.

Have a great, gun carryin', Kenpo day

Clyde

 

[TheAccountant]

Their house, their rules.

You are quite the freedom giving up boot licker aren't you. When it is approved you will say nothing in the constitution that protects you from having to take it in a pandemic.

What “freedom” are you referring to? The freedom of employees telling the business owners what the rules are? That’s the same nonexistent “freedom” the leftwing socialist unions push.

If you don’t like it, invest your time, money, effort, and risk and build your own business. Until then, shut up and do what you’re told.

 

[XJThrottle]

If the company that I work for tried that they would be forced to close immediately, or change their mind.. Maybe 20% have done it, a few sales guys and the marketing girl.

The remainder saying "hell no" to it. Ya know, the engineering team, fabricators, materials guys, assembly guys. :lol:

 

[kenpoprofessor]

What “freedom” are you referring to? The freedom of employees telling the business owners what the rules are? That’s the same nonexistent “freedom” the leftwing socialist unions push.

If you don’t like it, invest your time, money, effort, and risk and build your own business. Until then, shut up and do what you’re told.

I agree with most of what you write, however, the caveat is: If an employer forces his/her employees to get the vaccine, and they decide to leave instead, what will the employer do??? If over half the workforce decides they won't participate in the experiment, he'll have to let them go, right???? So, who will do the work? Especially trained techs like myself, who, while not irreplaceable, would be near impossible to fill the position.

What happens when a business decides to contract with a vendor, but then requires that the vendor's folks have the vaccine. The vendor doesn't have the manpower to do the job with the amount of vaccinated folks. The business tries again, and again, and again with different vendors, with no luck, what do they do???

Have you seen the folks entering the workforce in the last year???

Clyde

 

[YNOTAZ]

I wonder how ADOSH or OSHA would look at the employees right to refuse dangerous work?

Dangerous: Get shot with an untested drug, approved only on an emergency basis, while giving the manufacturers full immunity, is only touted to increase your odds of avoiding serious illness from 95.5% to 97% unless you are already to sick or weak to work, may only last 6 months, and a leading Yale virologist says it appears not to protect you from contracting the dreaded disease in the first place.

It just takes a too much money and time to demonstrate how idiotic this is, probably more than anyone is willing to commit.