General Observations

[AH-64D]

People a distance from the item for sale asking if you're 'coming' to their area soon. And the item for sale is already at a more than fair price.

They're expecting you to deliver the item to them - you do all the driving.

That would be a no. They get to do without and rely on their entitlement mindset and pay more elsewhere. It's preferable not to sell to those types anyway. I'm starting to put "Delivery not included" in my ads. Meet halfway.

 

[Lobo2087]

Is it possible, some people, myself for example are currently injured or otherwise indisposed and simply cannot make the trip?

I don't think it was my that asked you that as I dont recall any deals with you but I have asked some that question in the past on the off chance they did have upcoming business in my area and it could work for both.

Im not talking asking someone to make a special trip to drop off but if someone is already in the area I fail to see how that's an offensive question to ask.

 

[AH-64D]

I'm handicapped and have difficulty walking and standing. I suppose I should insist everyone come to me? Because you're including me in that.

And no, you weren't in the crowd.

This isn't just a minor occurrence. It's almost half the inquiries.

No. I'm not driving to Tucson. Or North Phoenix. Meeting equidistant is atypical. Even understood. I know I live out a fer piece.

Answering all their questions to assure them they want the item only to be asked, 'Are you coming to Ajo anytime soon?'...and your negative response kills the sale - well, there are names for those types. And not just tire kickers or time wasters.

And yes, I find it offensive to ask when it is conditional for them that you drive to them. Meeting equidistant is not even a consideration. They negate any possibility of a transaction or exchange unless you agree to arrive in their area.

I only posted this to let them know that would be a no. And to quit wasting people's time.

Thank you for your thinking response.

It would also be nice if they actually read their PMs after using one to inquire about something.

 

[knockonit]

well it does present a problem i have over come it by putting two or three individuals who want to buy , to work it out for one individual to pick up for other sellers, not ideal, but doable, again its about trust in that issue and xfer of funds, many can't or wont do xfers via zelle, and others for some reason a brain fart there on others, just an idea to over come the issue, it works on occassion, best of luck with sale. and oh yeah, gun owners and buyers are the cheapest group, right behind fishermen, just saying
Rj

 

[AH-64D]

And for me it is new. I'd just never had so many people want something on the condition that you bring it to them. Historically, we'd agree to meet somewhere halfway. Now it's like the expectation is it must be delivered.

I'm not doing that. If they can beat my price locally or with shipping then I'm doing them a favor.

I'm just declaring no delivery included. :snooty:

 

[AH-64D]

It's just annoying.

 

[AH-64D]

They're still up to it. I know gun owners are generally pretty cheap but these types are beyond normal. They have no intention to buy unless it's delivered. So they end up getting nothing. Where do these clowns come from? Regardless, I am happy to dash their expectations.

 

[admin]

I state in my ad what's expected; ie, "pickup in North Phoenix". Will I get less sales because of it? Yep. Sometimes I get a DM that asks if I will be near X location soon and might be able to meet.

I think as long as you put what you're willing to do as part of your for sale post, you won't have to deal with those questions as much.

 

[Azgunlover69]

I've done my fair share of deals on this board and I am one that will ask some if they'll be in my neck of woods.

Personally, yes I will look for a deal, and typically I don't NEED the item. So if someone NEEDS to sell and is passing through, I'll absolutely make the deal to help them and get me a want.

On the flip side, if thr item is something I NEED, I will make the trip.

There is one person in particular on this forum I have dealt with a few times(no I won't name names.) They typically post in their ad to meet by them in north peoria. I have met plenty of ti es up there before, however a few times he's mentioned taking a trip to the surprise costco, which just so happens to be a rock throw from my house. So the deal has been made a distance away from his typically spot, but somewhere convenient for us both.

That said, I can understand the frustration if its happening all the time, but I would post location in the ad much like admin mentioned. If someone expresses interest, you can always start the conversation by asking if they plan to make the deal at your location choice after all questions are answered so you don't waste your time.

 

[rockbronco]

I agree, I’ve had much better luck being clear on what I expect or willing to do for the sale. I’ll post what part of town I’m in and where I can meet. Since I don’t work in the same part of town I’ll mention that as well and offer to meet there are anywhere in between. Works out pretty good and honestly the guys here have been some of the best people to buy/sell/trade with. Meeting different members and BSn for longer then it takes to do a deal is typically the best part of the whole experience

Sometimes I’ll ask on an item if someone is going to be near me any time soon since that can make an item more or less desirable to me. Typically I’m not needing it bad enough to justify driving from west to east phx or Tucson etc. If I do need something and it makes sense to travel I will. I’ll never expect the seller to accommodate driving across town or anything like that but sometimes it doesn’t hurt to ask if they have any plans to be in a particular area.

 

[cool arrow]

I'm handicapped and have difficulty walking and standing. I suppose I should insist everyone come to me? Because you're including me in that.

And no, you weren't in the crowd.

This isn't just a minor occurrence. It's almost half the inquiries.

No. I'm not driving to Tucson. Or North Phoenix. Meeting equidistant is atypical. Even understood. I know I live out a fer piece.

Answering all their questions to assure them they want the item only to be asked, 'Are you coming to Ajo anytime soon?'...and your negative response kills the sale - well, there are names for those types. And not just tire kickers or time wasters.

And yes, I find it offensive to ask when it is conditional for them that you drive to them. Meeting equidistant is not even a consideration. They negate any possibility of a transaction or exchange unless you agree to arrive in their area.

I only posted this to let them know that would be a no. And to quit wasting people's time.

Thank you for your thinking response.

It would also be nice if they actually read their PMs after using one to inquire about something.

 

[cool arrow]

I was one of those, I am not going to lie.

I was ready to drop $880 your way, but am on deployment.

Gf is in Tucson and will meet just about anywhere I ask, but I am a gazillion miles away and can't meet myself.

For now I guess I will buy from those in Tucson, she likes picking things up for me while I am away.

 

[Razai]

If I am selling, I am always willing to cooperate within reason. Most recent sale was to a great board member who could not make the drive but offered to cover my fuel and time. Awesome transaction, and I got to meef another member I had previously only known by name.
I always specify my location and expectations, but I never take offense when someone wants to split tbe distance.
Now, every single person on this board who has ever traded with or purchased from me has gotten the better end of the deal, by far, from the get go, so I do try to limit further losses through driving, but perhaps my mindset isn’t average. Never had a deal go south on this board in 25 years.

 

[kenpoprofessor]

What Rick said up above. I was working in Flagstaff for the week, a friend of mine had sent the money to the guy but physically, he couldn't get up there to buy it. So, I did the deal for him when I was up there working. Trust is the biggest thing as RJ said.

 

[BroncoAZ]

I don’t have any problem with someone asking me if I’m heading somewhere close to them, sometimes I get to Phoenix and it works out great. On that batch of ammo I sold last weekend I was heading to Prescott and had one person meet me in NW Tucson and three people meet me at a spot in Chandler on my way within about 30 minutes of each other. It was convenient for all and worked out great.

I haven’t had anyone demand delivery without an offer of compensation. I try to be very clear on where I can/will meet, but if the transaction is large enough I might drive farther than I would normally to complete the sale. I agree halfway is generally reasonable, but for a Tucson to Phoenix transaction Casa Grande is still a 2.5 hour round trip for me. If the item can easily be shipped it’s well worth it rather than investing all that time and gas. If it’s a small transaction that can’t be shipped it may not happen.

If you live in somewhere way off the beaten path like Florence, I can completely understand someone asking if you have any reason to go to Phx or anywhere into the valley. When I lived in Flagstaff it was a common question, and I usually worked in Phoenix two weeks a month.

 

[Suck My Glock]

I don't see why this is so surprising. We who live in the greater Phoenix metro area can be as far away from each other as 2 hours or more, depending on traffic and time of day if we are on opposite sides of the valley. So that is fuel cost and time cost added on top of the otherwise awesome price. Lump those all together, and suddenly the deal might not be so awesome. That's just basic economics. So OF COURSE folks are hoping you have reason to travel closer to them and to take advantage of that. I don't condemn anyone for trying keep it all as cheap as possible. I live out here where the 303 Loop crosses over the US60 as it departs for Wickenburg, so I'm not easy for anyone in the east valley to come meet me if I got something to sell,...and I get that.

 

[AH-64D]

It was noticed. Thus, we did not connect. No consideration of meeting equidistant. Thats going to be a steady no from my end. Im notably below retail. It's generally available for more elsewhere. Those are the available outcomes. Have met a good handful of guys splitting the distance. It's worked out well.

I'd noticed it was becoming more prevalent as if it was the norm. I'm just declaring I'm not having any of it.

 

[Ballistic Therapy]

If you don't want to travel , just put it in your add.

 

[Doc]

@AH-64D i think it’s got a lot to do with you living in Florence.

I don’t think there’s anything wrong with a guy asking if you are going to be in the area. As others have stated perhaps you should state in your ad that you won’t be meeting half way.

If I’m driving to Florence there better be a heck of a deal or a set of bewbees in town for me.

 

[Abbey]

If someone has a rare item that I really want, or it's a really good deal, or it's a particularly expensive item, then I'll go the "extra mile" to accommodate either the buy or sell side of a transaction. But if I'm just cleaning out the gun room of cheap odds/ends or buying more run-of-the-mill items, I'm not going to burn precious weekend time to save $20 or to buy someone's old ammo stash that I can get cheaper from TrueShot.

Couple things that have worked for me: a couple people who aren't near me offered to pay shipping. If something fits in a USPS priority box, that saves everyone travel time. I've also held items for people who were planning to be in town in a week or 2. Personally I'm happy to do that and I've only had a couple "buyer backed out" on this forum.