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TacMedic said:
Yes. You can't be verified using abstract "credit" in the system. The point of verification is that you need to use a payment gateway to provide a real CC info (and thus, real name and address) and have a real charge go through. No CC info is stored by the site and the site doesn't proxy the transactions. The $1.50 you are charged to 'verify' your account for a year is then credited back to you on AZSAuctions that you can use for things like highlighted listings, or featured, etc. The $5 is something I am crediting all new accounts for now so you can try the 'up-sell' features at no cost.
Thanks to those of you who registered (over 40 so far) and to those of you who have listed items already. The more people we get on the site, the better it'll become.
Spread it by word of mouth and/or on other forums when appropriate.
Also, I will likely work on an auto-image re-sizer down the road, but it's not an easy thing to add and uses a lot of server resources to do (I'm on a shoestring budget here!). In the interim, there are a LOT of sites that will auto-reize for you for free. I only care about file size - they need to be under 250k each. Site like this: https://imageresizer.com/ work well and are easy to use. The other alternative is that if you're hosting it on a place like flickr or imgur, you can use the remote URL to add the images.
Spread it by word of mouth and/or on other forums when appropriate.
Also, I will likely work on an auto-image re-sizer down the road, but it's not an easy thing to add and uses a lot of server resources to do (I'm on a shoestring budget here!). In the interim, there are a LOT of sites that will auto-reize for you for free. I only care about file size - they need to be under 250k each. Site like this: https://imageresizer.com/ work well and are easy to use. The other alternative is that if you're hosting it on a place like flickr or imgur, you can use the remote URL to add the images.
needsmostuff
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Location of the item needs to be plainly listed in the posting.
Ballistic Therapy
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So as of now , we can not post any classifieds on this sight ?
I've added a bulk lister tool that lets you put a bunch of items you want to sell into a single CSV file (Excel or Google Docs) and easily add items to your spreadsheet/csv and then import it to list them. You can import them as "Drafts" so they don't immediately go live so that you can verify that your spreadsheet settings were correct.
Tried this over the weekend. no problems registering or listing an item. Pretty straight forward but does take some getting used to the format. I like not having to host the photos elsewhere but you need to resize. I simply emailed them to myself and selected a smaller size then uploaded to the site, I can always send potential buyers full resolution if needed or requested. So far so good.
Only issue I see is one more step to selling something here, People are lazy enough that the 5mins it takes to register somewhere else is too much for them. I hope it does grow with traffic in the future. I have forwarded it friends and family as well.
Only issue I see is one more step to selling something here, People are lazy enough that the 5mins it takes to register somewhere else is too much for them. I hope it does grow with traffic in the future. I have forwarded it friends and family as well.
admin said:
The government went after them for making it easier for people to buy guns, or in the Fed's mind to circumvent background checks where required. Armslist's answer to that, or to take advantage of increase in traffic, was to force anyone who wanted to contact a seller to subscribe to their "premium" service at $7 a month. If you want to see the listing description, you need an account. If you have one before they created this change, you can view, just can't contact. If you didn't have an account then you need to sign up for their premium service.
Not a good first experience.
Created the account, then tried to list some .22 ammunition for sale. No can do. I listed "Category" as Sporting Goods, Shooting, Ammunition, and the error message said "9588 is not a valid category." What is that supposed to mean?
Also, since "New Message" no longer appears on the old Classified section, I am guessing that is over with, and only the new method of listing is available. Is that right?
Created the account, then tried to list some .22 ammunition for sale. No can do. I listed "Category" as Sporting Goods, Shooting, Ammunition, and the error message said "9588 is not a valid category." What is that supposed to mean?
Also, since "New Message" no longer appears on the old Classified section, I am guessing that is over with, and only the new method of listing is available. Is that right?
smithers599 said:
As I said above, it would be self-defeating to roll out this new site, but leave the status-quo in place. Existing topics will remain, but new for-sale needs to go to the new site.
As for your issue, you didn't actually select the final category. You picked "ammunition", but did not finish. Perhaps it was because you didn't see the final box pop up on the subsequent row below...
I contemplated only having everything at a max of 3 levels in to avoid that, but wondered if it would get too "messy" with a lot of top-level categories. Probably doesn't matter much at the early stages with not a lot of items listed yet. I am open to thoughts and suggestions.
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Aha. If it was off the bottom of the visible screen, then I would not have seen it.
As to suggestions, an error message less obtuse than some numbers would save you the trouble of people bothering you. Maybe something like "Please complete the Category -- What type of ammunition?
As to questions, will there be the same level of privacy? That is, will name, address, email address, and phone number remain hidden, with the option to communicate by PM only?
Aha. If it was off the bottom of the visible screen, then I would not have seen it.
As to suggestions, an error message less obtuse than some numbers would save you the trouble of people bothering you. Maybe something like "Please complete the Category -- What type of ammunition?
As to questions, will there be the same level of privacy? That is, will name, address, email address, and phone number remain hidden, with the option to communicate by PM only?
The site doesn't share any info; eg - won't be sold, shared, transferred, etc. In fact, I am contemplating just requiring a username, and email to sign up - further info can be optional. The downside to that is that it will attract some potential scammers since they don't have to give *any* personal info.
I tried to aim for the middle-ground by making an address and phone number required at sign-up, but not doing any sort of physical address verification or validating the phone # so that someone could put anything in there.
I'm leaning more towards removing that from registration and just leaving it as an option for those who wish to be a "verified" seller.
Any thoughts?
I tried to aim for the middle-ground by making an address and phone number required at sign-up, but not doing any sort of physical address verification or validating the phone # so that someone could put anything in there.
I'm leaning more towards removing that from registration and just leaving it as an option for those who wish to be a "verified" seller.
Any thoughts?
It's probably 50/50. Even some of the scammers will comply with personal info requests. The feedback rating system should take care of them. A "Verified" tag lends some credibility to the seller, but a history of positive feedback means more to me than a digital check mark. Now that I know "Verified" is basically meaningless...since you don't actually verify any of the info..."Verified" is just a .jpeg next to the name. If you are going to have a "Verified" process, you actually have to verify the person through a legit method...paypal, small CC charge, etc. If you don't, then I'd rather just risk a scammer and go by feedback rating alone. People have to be pretty dumb to fall for most of the scams out there anyways.
And for the people who freak out over a PayPal verification or similar, they have no idea how the internet/computers works...or they most likely wouldn't be selling firearms on the internet anyways, if they were so concerned about Big Brother.
And for the people who freak out over a PayPal verification or similar, they have no idea how the internet/computers works...or they most likely wouldn't be selling firearms on the internet anyways, if they were so concerned about Big Brother.
Thank you. My question is not whether my information will be sold etc., but whether it will be visible to users of the site, or to buyers or sellers. I want to continue to be able to meet people at the Bass Pro or Sportsmans, exchange cash for goods, and go our separate ways without ever knowing our real names, much less phone numbers and email addresses. Will that be possible?admin said:
I really appreciate the feedback on the site. I want to make it user-friendly, easy and useful - and it helps to get feedback from others.
I did go ahead and just remove the requirements to put in phone number, address, etc upon initial registration. I have other things I'm using to try to reduce scammers/spam, etc. A user can choose to enter that info later in their profile if they want, or if they want to be a 'verified' account.
I also modified the categories a bit so that none of them proceed past a third tier to avoid the issue smithers599 had where he didn't see the last category box. If the site continues to grow, I will modify the way subcategories work down the road.
As for your personal info, if you buy something or win an auction, it will provide the contact info you have in your profile to the seller so they can reach out to you directly to finalize the deal, arrange payment or ship the item. Outside of transactions you enter into to buy something, it isn't visible to any other buyers or sellers. eg, if you bid on something but don't win it, or place an offer on something that isn't accepted, the seller doesn't have access to your address or contact info - if that's what you're asking.
If you're deliberately trying to avoid giving names or contact info, you'd need to enter bogus info in your profile for everything but your email address and when you buy something or win something, you'd just use the site messages (like PM's on this site) to communicate with them for a meet-up time, place, etc. That option is immediately presented to the buyer (and seller) when a deal is made. So yes, you can still remain anonymous in that sense, if that's what you're after.
Here's an example of what I mean (I happened to pick a shipping option by mistake, but the rest is what I'm referring to for bogus info along with how you'd communicate privately with the seller).
I did go ahead and just remove the requirements to put in phone number, address, etc upon initial registration. I have other things I'm using to try to reduce scammers/spam, etc. A user can choose to enter that info later in their profile if they want, or if they want to be a 'verified' account.
I also modified the categories a bit so that none of them proceed past a third tier to avoid the issue smithers599 had where he didn't see the last category box. If the site continues to grow, I will modify the way subcategories work down the road.
As for your personal info, if you buy something or win an auction, it will provide the contact info you have in your profile to the seller so they can reach out to you directly to finalize the deal, arrange payment or ship the item. Outside of transactions you enter into to buy something, it isn't visible to any other buyers or sellers. eg, if you bid on something but don't win it, or place an offer on something that isn't accepted, the seller doesn't have access to your address or contact info - if that's what you're asking.
If you're deliberately trying to avoid giving names or contact info, you'd need to enter bogus info in your profile for everything but your email address and when you buy something or win something, you'd just use the site messages (like PM's on this site) to communicate with them for a meet-up time, place, etc. That option is immediately presented to the buyer (and seller) when a deal is made. So yes, you can still remain anonymous in that sense, if that's what you're after.
Here's an example of what I mean (I happened to pick a shipping option by mistake, but the rest is what I'm referring to for bogus info along with how you'd communicate privately with the seller).
QuietM4 said:
I'm not sure how you get that "verified" is meaningless. In order to get verified you DO need to use a payment gateway for a $1.50 charge to a credit card. That amount is then credited back to the account on the auction site.
I wasn't aware of the CC charge for verification...I was going by your previous post where you said you don't verify the users address or ph#. I haven't signed up for the new site, and I most likely won't....I get much better response or my sale items on ARFCOM.
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