Can I by law have a Medical Marijuana card and have firearms?

[AZ Husker]

What the form DOESN'T ask is when you used it. I'd venture a guess that many here have partaken in the past. I have a valid scuba card, but haven't been diving in years.

 

[knockonit]

yep, seems everyone wants to be a lawyer, problem is lawyers aren't really lawyers they purveyors of the non truth,
the justice system is broken badly, one can buy justice, just have to know who, and where and when.

in a case of this, its simple, know someone that has a card, use theirs if you must, i know i would again if going thru chemo. it works for the nausea,
happy hump day
Rj

 

[TheRifleman]

Ah, but the person is an unlawful user if they have a medical marijuana card. Why? Because of the statement on Form 4473 11.e

Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance?

Warning: The use or possession of marijuana remains unlawful under Federal Law regardless of whether it has been legalized or decriminalized for medical or recreational purposes in the state where you reside.

Therefore, if you check the "no" box, you're in violation of Federal law. If you check yes, you're denied. Take your pick.

There is absolutely no ambiguity in this at all. It's very clear.

The fact you're so sure if yourself when you're flat out wrong is the best part of this post. Read the quotes from the case in my post above, which apply actual logic to the situation instead of making the ASSumption that every mmj card holder actually uses marijuana. There's no requirement to use marijuana to obtain, keep, or renew the card, so simply having a mmj card does not mean you use marijuana. If you don't use marijuana, why would you check a box saying that you do?

 

[Flash]

The fact you're so sure if yourself when you're flat out wrong is the best part of this post. Read the quotes from the case in my post above, which apply actual logic to the situation instead of making the ASSumption that every mmj card holder actually uses marijuana. There's no requirement to use marijuana to obtain, keep, or renew the card, so simply having a mmj card does not mean you use marijuana. If you don't use marijuana, why would you check a box saying that you do?

Unfortunately for you, you're the one flat out wrong. I quoted the 4473 which states use and possession of marijuana.

Somehow you converted that to read ownership of a card. You need to read better.

 

[storage_man]

One can never argue with a Blind Person (or a legal expert). Can't see Black/White or Colors.

 

[TheRifleman]

The fact you're so sure if yourself when you're flat out wrong is the best part of this post. Read the quotes from the case in my post above, which apply actual logic to the situation instead of making the ASSumption that every mmj card holder actually uses marijuana. There's no requirement to use marijuana to obtain, keep, or renew the card, so simply having a mmj card does not mean you use marijuana. If you don't use marijuana, why would you check a box saying that you do?

Unfortunately for you, you're the one flat out wrong. I quoted the 4473 which states use and possession of marijuana.

Somehow you converted that to read ownership of a card. You need to read better.

So when you said, "Ah, but the person is an unlawful user if they have a medical marijuana card" you didn't mean that a person is an unlawful user if they have a medical marijuana card?

 

[Flash]

Having a card doesn't make you unlawful. Use and possession does.

 

[17-21-23]

W/O coming off subject too much, You do not want to be caught violating a federal law while in possession of a firearm. If you are in possession of a bag of weed, it's good idea not to have a firearm in your possession too.

 

[Arizonajeff]

The issue we should be arguing is why should this even be an issue. Both needing to get permission to buy a weapon or smoke dope is stupid. These laws are unjust and should be ignored as was said by a smart man years ago. We all fear the ramifications of doing this though. The older I get the more it bothers me. Our freedoms are being eroded away as we argue amongst ourselves.

 

[redj]

The issue we should be arguing is why should this even be an issue. Both needing to get permission to buy a weapon or smoke dope is stupid. These laws are unjust and should be ignored as was said by a smart man years ago. We all fear the ramifications of doing this though. The older I get the more it bothers me. Our freedoms are being eroded away as we argue amongst ourselves.

The problem with the theory that these laws should be ignored is fine.
The problem is that the Feds won't ignore them.

 

[Mauser98]

In the last year iv been looking into changing medications and leaning towards medical marijuana. Seems safer then prescription Meds.
If I take that route, is my gun rights at stake?

Don't do drugs.

1) You'd be committing multiple federal felonies.
2) From Marijuana only I've seen otherwise normal people turn into hippies who listen to John Lennon's song "Imagine" multiple times a day and adopt the lyrics as their life philosophy.

 

[LuckyLeaky]

4473 is a federal form
Whereas a medical marijuana permit is state

Until weed is federally legal... you cannot have it

 

[Crippledtrigger]

Concealed is concealed.

 

[Steve_In_29]

Personally I wouldn't trust the Feds (or anti-gun States) to not come around a knocking at some future time.

 

[lew]

In the last year iv been looking into changing medications and leaning towards medical marijuana. Seems safer then prescription Meds.
If I take that route, is my gun rights at stake?

Don't do drugs.

1) You'd be committing multiple federal felonies.
2) From Marijuana only I've seen otherwise normal people turn into hippies who listen to John Lennon's song "Imagine" multiple times a day and adopt the lyrics as their life philosophy.

So there's no medicinal aspect to marijuana? Interesting...

 

[Azbuilder]

Try Hemp based CBD,. No card needed with many benefits except doesn't get you high. Has the
cannabinoids without the THC.

 

[Crippledtrigger]

In the last year iv been looking into changing medications and leaning towards medical marijuana. Seems safer then prescription Meds.
If I take that route, is my gun rights at stake?

Don't do drugs.

1) You'd be committing multiple federal felonies.
2) From Marijuana only I've seen otherwise normal people turn into hippies who listen to John Lennon's song "Imagine" multiple times a day and adopt the lyrics as their life philosophy.

So there's no medicinal aspect to marijuana? Interesting...

I dont think that was his point or even a consideration in his comment.
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[Bradshaw1]

Personally I wouldn't trust the Feds (or anti-gun States) to not come around a knocking at some future time.

You're overlooking a two fine points;

1) State of Arizona (a Pro Gun State) can charge a Med MJ User as a Prohibited Possessor and;
2) State of California (an Anti Gun State) can charge a Legal Recreational State MJ User as a Prohibited Possessor.

So its not only the Feds MJ users have to worry about.

 

[Conelrad]

I was undergoing chemo for lymphoma back in '12 to '13. I couldn't sleep, and had bad digestive effects due to those drugs. On advice from my oncologist, I obtained a pot card. The derivative was eaten each evening, and I was able to have a good meal and slept thru the night. Subsequently I was declared cured.

I also tried to purchase a rifle whilst the card was still valid, and AZ DPS denied the transfer, as they are in the loop on pot cards.

In 2017 (and recently), I opted to buy another gun again since the card had long expired and the BG checks went thru without delay.

DG

 

[QuietM4]

AZ DPS does not deny firearm transfers as they do not run any background check when you purchase a firearm. The FBI runs NICS, who does the background check. Your name was just in a database.