Body cam footage - George Floyd arrest!!!

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Positional asphyxiation is real and there are published studies and recommendations by DOJ, NLETC, IACP, NIJ, etc going back to the mid-90s because of in-custody deaths. Police are trained on the signs/symptoms and best practices, one of which is certainly not pinning a guy face down, handcuffed, and putting 1 officer's knee on his neck for 9 minutes.
 
Tax payers saved? No court cost?

There will be a trial, there will be payouts to the family.
 
XJThrottle said:
Tax payers saved? No court cost?

There will be a trial, there will be payouts to the family.

+1

The amount of money that'll get paid out because of this mess will dwarf the costs of incarcerating the guy. Not to mention the costs of trying and incarcerating Chauvin.
 
Jager said:
Doesn't matter, really. This video. His unwarranted death was only the excuse need to kick off the planned and intended anarchy and chaos. His death served it's purpose. 99% of the people 'enraged' by his death have long moved past it and onto their true intentions. The virtue signalling was useful while it lasted. He was a tool, a footstool to get to a higher goal. They do not care about George Floyd. They especially do not care about his life of violent crime, his prison time or his life of bad decision making.

At this point, you could have video of him kicking a baby into the street, firing rounds at officers and tossing a pound of cocaine out the window. Nobody on the side of the anarchy, chaos, extortion, is going to listen or change their opinion. They're still insisting 'Hands up, don't shoot' was a factual occurrence.

Telling them they've been 'played' isn't going to work. When has it ever worked?

There's your answer.

I'm not on the side of anarchy, chaos, or extortion and I think Furgeson was a farce. If he kicked a baby, fired rounds at officers, or threw a kilo of coke out of the window, he should be tried and punished to the full extent of the law. At the point he's unarmed, cuffed, and face down, it's not a cop's job to play executioner. So you're right, it wouldn't matter.
 
Guns... are you trying to be funny or are you a troll? An number of your posts come alarmingly close to being outright racist. Not only do we have a mixed group on this board but I cant think of one decent peace officer who feels the way you seem to.

How about toning down the racist connotations. I for one dont find them humorous and I personally feel we as a firearm community don't need a blatant racist in our midst
 
Good to see the trash was taken out as should be......... unfortunate to see the officer charged with that duty may be in for a rough ride.
Worst thing is people giving a piece of excrement a name, then boo-hooing when it circles the drain and then down it goes as if they miss the stink.
 
While I agree floyd was no where near the picture of a societal angel what happed should not have happened. I don't know if that is what killed him and I hope it wasn't. I do know for a fact however the force used was unreasonable. There are times the head must be controlled to control the body however once that control is obtained you must transition to care in custody. You have to have a genuine human interest in the physical well being of everyone. We are there to keep the peace. It is up to judge and jury to punish

Even if someone is the worst of humans it is not in our oath or duties to judge or punish.
 
The BIG thing that is being ignored by the fake news (because it doesn't fit the narrative) is the fact that Floyd had enough drugs in his system to kill him. This attempted arrest just put him over the edge. He had serious mental issues going on that were probably drug induced. When this thing gets to court the knee jerk will probably get involuntary manslaughter because the defense will prove he was already on his way to a drug overdose and he didn't mean to kill him. Then we'll see rioting like never before. This sh!t will be going on for a long time, so get used to it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lia-IMDQJU4
 
Jager said:
TheAccountant said:
I'm not on the side of anarchy, chaos, or extortion and I think Furgeson was a farce. If he kicked a baby, fired rounds at officers, or threw a kilo of coke out of the window, he should be tried and punished to the full extent of the law. At the point he's unarmed, cuffed, and face down, it's not a cop's job to play executioner. So you're right, it wouldn't matter.

You missed the point, apparently - the part where I stated his death was unwarranted. But you had to - your desperate need to virtue signal overrode the requirement to use comprehension to grasp what you were reading.

Not a favorable trait for an accountant. And I do not appreciate the inference you are making regarding my actual statement. If you are going to quote me, make sure you understand what I actually said, not what you 'thought' it meant.

The general point was, the video will not alter what has transpired after the event as much of it was pre-planned and only looking for a trigger. That nobody 'protesting' in the aftermath gives a true damn about George Floyd.

The video 'may' have a play with the upcoming trial. And either way it goes, there will still be riots and anarchy. But that is NOT what I was referring to or speaking to. That is an entirely different discussion altogether. So, understand that I am going to take you to task for it.

Jager said:
Doesn't matter, really. This video. His unwarranted death was only the excuse need to kick off the planned and intended anarchy and chaos. His death served it's purpose. 99% of the people 'enraged' by his death have long moved past it and onto their true intentions. The virtue signalling was useful while it lasted. He was a tool, a footstool to get to a higher goal. They do not care about George Floyd. They especially do not care about his life of violent crime, his prison time or his life of bad decision making.

At this point, you could have video of him kicking a baby into the street, firing rounds at officers and tossing a pound of cocaine out the window. Nobody on the side of the anarchy, chaos, extortion, is going to listen or change their opinion. They're still insisting 'Hands up, don't shoot' was a factual occurrence.

Telling them they've been 'played' isn't going to work. When has it ever worked?

There's your answer.

I'm surprised a reading comprehension extraordinaire such as yourself couldn't clearly see that my response was to your second paragraph, but apparently you were having an off day, so I went ahead and emphasized it for you above.

Since you're so interested in "taking me to task" for supposedly misinterpreting your babble, then why don't you tell me what opinion a video of him kicking a baby, firing rounds at officers, or tossing cocaine out the window is supposed to change? How about the part where you conflate Floyd and Ferguson? While you're at it, why don't you explain why people should care about his criminal past at this point?

Also, you're right, I was doing nothing but virtue signalling (that must be your favorite little buzzword now) by stating that cops shouldn't be killing unarmed and handcuffed civilians on the street and I was completely out of line. From now on, I'll join the forum in whining like a 3 year old any time Alex Jones brings up any sort of 2A conspiracy, but will put the blinders on and completely ignore actual blatant 5A and 6A violations.
 
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Your desire to put your hands down my pants fully explains your limp wristed antics in this thread. Thanks.
 
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