Bill to let weed patients own guns

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Crippledtrigger said:
Suck My Glock said:
Elk34 said:
Nope if you are on weed you shouldn't have a gun.

If you advocate stripping of rights, you shouldn't have any.
Hes just trolling like a ranger.

He will rattle the wrong cage one day and have to sign up again for the 26th time.

Here's another wanna a be. You don't like my answer and you want to silence me. Great fourm. Talk about my freedom
 
Elk34 said:
Suck My Glock said:
Elk34 said:
Nope if you are on weed you shouldn't have a gun.

If you advocate stripping of rights, you shouldn't have any.
As for alcohol there is no illness that it treats. Pot treats a lot of illnesses. If you have a card for pot the state has no idea when you are on it. But you could be on it at any time legally. So I don't believe you should be able to have a gun. If you drive impaired alcohol or with pot you go to jail. It has to be thought like that. There needs to be a baseline for this. You want a gun . Give up your pot card. This needs to be cut and dry no grey area.

Wait...so you admit that it serves a purpose and advocate stripping people's rights away because they do something that they may do or not do and how it makes you "feel"?

I've heard this argument before from somewhere........ :think:
 
:laughing-rolling: :laughing-rolling: :laughing-rolling: :laughing-rolling: :happy-partydance: You sound like one of those guys that have a pot card????? Do you think your rights are being trampled on????
 
Elk34 said:
I don't agree with you so you start crying and whining like a lib. What a joke.

I'm not. We don't have to agree. I am just pointing out thats what the liberals do. I don't want to ban things because how they make me feel.
 
I find the battles over taking away our Inalienable Creator Endowed Human Rights most discouraging! Sometimes I have to wonder if the battling opponents even know what a RIGHT is.

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Dictionary

in·al·ien·a·ble
/inˈālēənəb(ə)l/

"unable to be taken away from or given away by the possessor.
"freedom of religion, the most inalienable of all human rights"
 
shooter444 said:
I find the battles over taking away our Inalienable Creator Endowed Human Rights most discouraging! Sometimes I have to wonder if the battling opponents even know what a RIGHT is.

I think they have a rough idea of what rights are, but freedom is scary to some of these people. Especially when someone can legally say or do something that offends or scares them.
 
AZ1182 said:
No dog here, but a legitimate question: All in favor of gun rights for weed users, are you an actual weed user? The reason I ask, is for some clarity here. These arguments always have an underlining reason for the back and forth's, why else would we be so involved, for sport?


Im stone cold sober as a judge.

I just see it as a gateway to control others or expand the list to deny peaceful people the right to protect themselves.

Like who's to say they don't add ritalin or any anti anxiety medication to that list of prohibited people.
 
Cubiclerevolt said:
Im stone cold sober as a judge.

I just see it as a gateway to control others or expand the list to deny peaceful people the right to protect themselves.

Like who's to say they don't add ritalin or any anti anxiety medication to that list of prohibited people.

Ahhh Yesss!!!,... the proverbial slippery slope syndrome!!! :doh:
 
Agree with shooter444 and Cubiclerevolt. Not a weed user at all, but it seems like a big overreach and a possible slippery slope. I also think we need to be consistent in applying laws for weed as we do for laws around alcohol.
 
If one were to look back in history, oh, let's say the past fifty years, or so,... I believe one could document the INCH BY INCH progression of the progressive Demonscat / socialist communist encroachment / infringements on our Creator Endowed Inalienable human Right to LIFE, LIBERTY, and our PURSUIT of HAPPINESS!!!

I don't believe it would be all that hard!
 
I believe the people who complain the most either lost something, or are mad about something they are going to loose. What's the difference between a person with a felony for pot and a person with a pot card that can have it at anytime? Anyone........ the felon can't posses a permit or legally buy a gun. That takes me to another point. Buying a gun from someone without a bill of sale. The guy could be a felon, the gun could be stolen.
 
Elk34 said:
I believe the people who complain the most either lost something, or are mad about something they are going to loose. What's the difference between a person with a felony for pot and a person with a pot card that can have it at anytime? Anyone........ the felon can't posses a permit or legally buy a gun. That takes me to another point. Buying a gun from someone without a bill of sale. The guy could be a felon, the gun could be stolen.

To that I say the GCA of 68 should be outright repealed.

I understand what you are saying but the right course of action is to scale back all gun laws back to 1911 and call it a day.

Felony used to mean something in terms of committing heinous crimes. Armed robbery, attempted murder etc. Now you become one for writing a bad check for a few hundred bucks.

Our prisons should be filled with violent and dangerous criminals who do not value human life. Not victimless crimes of lifestyles we do not approve of.
 
OK, enough is enough,... Elk34, would you please explain to me how a Bill of Sale would prove/prevent a felon from purchasing a firearm, or, how a Bill of Sale will prove the gun could be stolen?


Elk34 quote,... "Buying a gun from someone without a bill of sale. The guy could be a felon, the gun could be stolen."
 
shooter444 said:
OK, enough is enough,... Elk34, would you please explain to me how a Bill of Sale would prove/prevent a felon from purchasing a firearm, or, how a Bill of Sale will prove the gun could be stolen?


Elk34 quote,... "Buying a gun from someone without a bill of sale. The guy could be a felon, the gun could be stolen."
I'm just saying if you are caught with a stolen gun and no way to prove that you bought it from someone else other then you stealing it you are probably going to jail. If you have a bill of sale and proof of their ID they will just take the gun and leave you alone. See the difference?
 
Elk34 said:
shooter444 said:
OK, enough is enough,... Elk34, would you please explain to me how a Bill of Sale would prove/prevent a felon from purchasing a firearm, or, how a Bill of Sale will prove the gun could be stolen?


Elk34 quote,... "Buying a gun from someone without a bill of sale. The guy could be a felon, the gun could be stolen."
I'm just saying if you are caught with a stolen gun and no way to prove that you bought it from someone else other then you stealing it you are probably going to jail. If you have a bill of sale and proof of their ID they will just take the gun and leave you alone. See the difference?

I get what you're saying about protecting yourself, but I don't think the police will arrest you for merely possessing the stolen property without a reasonable suspicion that you were the actual thief. I could be wrong. Either way, in the hypothetical situation where you purchase a stollen firearm, how would law enforcement be made aware of your possession of the firearm in order to haul you off to jail in the first place?
 
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