aroyobob said:
Here's another good one. Local PD this time. Most of the interaction at the door is recorded which illustrates how the officers try to get the homeowner to start talking to tell "his side of the story" which will provide them, they hope, with enough evidence to charge him or get a warrant. They don't have either of those things and have already decided he's guilty and want to find something, anything, to charge him with. The host of the video makes the point that the homeowner actually talked too much and partly took the bait of explaining himself when he should have respectfully said he wouldn't answer any questions without his lawyer present and ended the conversation.
https://youtu.be/GoAUittCcow
kenpoprofessor said:
Manitu said:
That officer and many others were well know by me and me by them, I repaired their radios for several years.
And you described them "rubber necking" your home,which, by any standard, says they don't care how well they know you, they're looking for something to make you a criminal.
Have a great, gun carryin', Kenpo day
Clyde
As a conservative I am expected to “Back the Blue” but these are perfect examples of why I do not, and will never, support that thin blue line. In years past a fellowship of sorts used to exist between gun guys and the police. Those days are over. Cops, in general, are not our friends. To illustrate: Whenever there is resistance to Constitutional carry or any kind of measure making CCW easier for the common man; it is, without fail, police agencies leading the opposition. Behind this vocal group you may find dissent by those whose income depends on training for CCW which is shamefully self-serving, but law enforcement organizations represent the primary hostility to lawful gun owners and carry outside the home.
Couple this disdain of an armed populace with the hate that all federal alphabet agencies, particularly the ATF, have for armed Americans and you know who, in the event of a confiscation order, the police will back—and it won’t be us.
In spite of this certainty, the gun community persists with a leg-humping pandering to law enforcement. Shooting ranges, for example, almost always offer significant discounts to, not only active police officers, but those retired from the force as well. Many bullet manufacturers offer the perk of free shipping to those in law enforcement. Same with a lot of reloading suppliers. Fine, it’s your business, do what you want but I won’t buy your product if I’m subsidizing a group who, as a rule, is overtly hostile to gun owners. And, like the rubber-necking officer in Manitu’s house – someone he’s even well acquainted with, don’t expect a quid pro quo in the event that officer discovers one of any number of things that could result in criminal prosecution and maybe even a loss of gun rights.
“That's pure hyperbole, hrob! I don’t have anything that I could be prosecuted for!” No? How about the guys who legally and with the fed’s blessing, purchased FRTs or braced pistols or bump stocks. Those guys are now facing felonies if caught with any of those items. And there are probably many thousands if not millions of people in possession of that stuff who don’t even know it’s a deal breaker for their gun rights. And all it takes is for one officer (You know, the guy who took an oath to uphold the Constitution.) to glance through a doorway, an open garage or a car window, see any one of those items and a law abiding gun owner becomes a felon who is prohibited from owning even a single shot .22.
Are there good cops out there? Of course, but they are in the minority and even then I wouldn’t be surprised if they chose paychecks and pensions over their vows to uphold the Constitution.
I’ll bet my social credit score just plummeted.
