Remow2112
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I have 2 vehicles that are due. Both have that $32 fee. I thought this was supposed to go away come 2021?
Anyone know?
Anyone know?
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Arizona car registration safety fee.
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How often does a tax go away ?
Cubiclerevolt
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DrEarlCordova said:How often does a tax go away ?
Funny how that works right? lol.
https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/arizona/2019/06/03/arizona-vehicle-registration-fee-stay-full-32-through-2021/1332361001/
Drivers will have to pay the $32 Arizona car registration fee for two more years
Arizona drivers, don't say goodbye to that $32 vehicle-registration fee just yet.
Motorists will continue to pay the full amount for the next two years rather than seeing a gradual phase-out before the fee's repeal, state officials confirmed Monday.
"The fee will remain at $32 for fiscal year 2020 and fiscal year 2021 … then drops to $0 by July 1, 2021," Governor's Office spokesman Patrick Ptak said via email.
The Department of Transportation said it does not plan to pro-rate registration fees for drivers who must renew before the fee is repealed, however.
For example, a driver whose registration is up in December 2020 would pay the full $32 fee upon renewing for one year, even though the fee would disappear halfway through that person's registration period.
Drivers will have to pay the $32 Arizona car registration fee for two more years
Arizona drivers, don't say goodbye to that $32 vehicle-registration fee just yet.
Motorists will continue to pay the full amount for the next two years rather than seeing a gradual phase-out before the fee's repeal, state officials confirmed Monday.
"The fee will remain at $32 for fiscal year 2020 and fiscal year 2021 … then drops to $0 by July 1, 2021," Governor's Office spokesman Patrick Ptak said via email.
The Department of Transportation said it does not plan to pro-rate registration fees for drivers who must renew before the fee is repealed, however.
For example, a driver whose registration is up in December 2020 would pay the full $32 fee upon renewing for one year, even though the fee would disappear halfway through that person's registration period.
They claimed it was a service fee and not a tax, to get around the legally questionable implementation of the tax. The intended use of the fee, funding DPS because their budget got pilfered to pay for teachers due to the Red for Edd hoopla. Sure sounds like a tax to me. In essence it was a new tax to pay for teachers pay raises.
oldmanpaintball
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this is bs
2 scooters
3 cars
utv
2 scooters
3 cars
utv
Some of us like me are more quantity vs quality in their motor vehicles. My 95 mustang was $16 to register before this fee, the $32 is a 200% increase. I have paid more in to this public safety fee for all my vehicles over the last few years than my purchase price on that Mustang.
Brlux said:They claimed it was a service fee and not a tax, to get around the legally questionable implementation of the tax. The intended use of the fee, funding DPS because their budget got pilfered to pay for teachers due to the Red for Edd hoopla. Sure sounds like a tax to me. In essence it was a new tax to pay for teachers pay raises.
There's more to it than that. I'm a friend of a DPS guy and here's where a bunch of money went.
For the last 3 years he worked, he got 2 DPS cars that he kept at his house. One was marked and one was unmarked. He'd work 8 hours (door to door, his door), go in and change and work another 4 or 5 hours OT in the unmarked car. He was spiking his pension.
So for the last 3 years, he got double his pay with the OT. It only takes around 65 hours a week to do that, and that's about the amount of hours the average Engineer where I worked put in for years.
Anyway, when he retired he got 1/2 of the average pay of his last 3 years, which was 100% of salary for a DPS officer with no OT.
So he's collecting 100% of his pay from retirement and they give him another car and hire him back to work around 20 or 30 hours a week, so he's collecting around 150% of pay.
And he's not the only one. About all of them that can do it are doing it. That's where a lot of money is going, 2 cars for each guy that's doing his last 3 years plus the spiking of retirement pay.
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Pension spiking was happening decades before this $32 tax.
Back when Joe Albo was director, he refused to pay out any OT. Instead you got “comp time” which is just paid time off provided you got approval to take time off. So most officers had huge banks of unpaid OT. Albo’s second in command had hundreds of hours banked from when he was a sergeant. Albo gave this guy a payout of all those hours at Lt. Colonel pay while still refusing to pay out the regular guys OT. DPS got sued for it and lost.
Then there is real graft like MCSO and Hendershott.
Back when Joe Albo was director, he refused to pay out any OT. Instead you got “comp time” which is just paid time off provided you got approval to take time off. So most officers had huge banks of unpaid OT. Albo’s second in command had hundreds of hours banked from when he was a sergeant. Albo gave this guy a payout of all those hours at Lt. Colonel pay while still refusing to pay out the regular guys OT. DPS got sued for it and lost.
Then there is real graft like MCSO and Hendershott.