AR15 IN 556 scopes power for the distance
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I’m more like:
0-300y: irons/RDS/HWS
150-600y: LPVO
300y+: 8x and up.
Unless you’re shooting benchrest, most people think they need way more magnification than they really do, AND there’s significant overlap in each area.
I can make hits out to 300y standing with irons/dots if I haven’t just exerted myself, but if I had access to an LPVO scope, I’d be foolish to pass it up. Likewise, a quality LPVO should be able to get you out to at least 600y for man/deer sized targets. And a simple 3-9x is plenty to reach a thousand for anything but the smallest targets.
0-300y: irons/RDS/HWS
150-600y: LPVO
300y+: 8x and up.
Unless you’re shooting benchrest, most people think they need way more magnification than they really do, AND there’s significant overlap in each area.
I can make hits out to 300y standing with irons/dots if I haven’t just exerted myself, but if I had access to an LPVO scope, I’d be foolish to pass it up. Likewise, a quality LPVO should be able to get you out to at least 600y for man/deer sized targets. And a simple 3-9x is plenty to reach a thousand for anything but the smallest targets.
Jager said:
Well I guess you eat all the grill cheese sandwiches yourself, drink all the cool aid. Then you ask your mother to turn on the TV for you Jager. I really don't know what kids these days do. Cry about it. That's what you do right.
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I'm starting to think there needs to be a limit on the number of new threads someone can start per week.
That's what I have found in testing. I put my ar in a vise put targets up every 3 feet and just turned the vise. At around 18 to 20 feet depending on bullet weight, started to climb. There was a chance to train some people in shooting and the question came up about scopes for long range and what to use when entering a building. How do you transition to a room after being outside in a city. I made a device that would hold a baby chemlight and all you could see is the very end of it. It gets attached to end of your barrel. While inside you could cant the rifle at a 45 and put the chemlight on a shadow and pull the trigger. It turns into instinctive rifle. No sights but you know where the end of the barrels at.
Elk34 said:
Unless, you have found a new space continuum, physics on earth has not changed. Bullets never climb or shoot flat. They can go up, but only with operator input. They always go down (sans a vacuum). Unless your sights are in the rifle bore (difficult proposition), a bullet can never shoot flat and definitely then, not even for 18 feet. For every degree you raise the sights over the bore, there is a corresponding measurement (angle) that the barrel has to compensate for. Regardless of the distance that you zero your rifle, gravity (F = G*((m sub 1*m sub 2)/r^2) latches on to a bullet the nano-second it leaves the bore. This is one of the calculations you need to calculate your "DOPE".
Think of it this way, when you adjust the sights, you are really moving the angle that the barrel needs to move up to have the bullet impact at the location that you are seeing in the sights. If you think of it this way, you'll realize that guns always shoot uphill.
Elk34 said:
:lol: :lol: :lol:
I honestly don’t know what to say here, this is the most outlandish dismissal of hard science that I’ve ever witnessed being pushed as fact outside of the flat earther circles! :lol:
Bullets don’t create lift like an airfoil does. They’re not going to travel parallel to the horizon and then suddenly take off like a Javelin rocket. :lol: When a bullet leaves the muzzle, it’s already falling below the axis of the bore. The only reason bullets arc upward is because you point the bore up, but as soon as it leaves the muzzle, it’s subject to the force of gravity and starts falling.
Your testing is flawed, or your interpretation of it is flawed, or both. But what you suggest is happening is absolutely false and has been proven as such by the study of external ballistics for decades.
I questioned your credibility before, but this removes all doubt. :lol: I don’t know how old you are, or what experience you claim to have, but this thread proves the things you post cannot be taken at face value and need to be carefully scrutinized for false information... :lol:
There is no hole. A 556 round will leave the bar depending on twist and speed. Start to drop around 2 or 3 yards. Not inches but not as much as you guys think. It starts to stabilize. Once it stabilizes it will climb and then starts to fall. So yes it does fall first and then will climbs and falls again.