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bottom line:

AR=bad choice for vehicle deployment, pistol=good choice, Judge with Dragons Breath=great choice.

I'm glad we are all now in agreement and back on topic.
 
cool arrow said:
bottom line:

AR=bad choice for vehicle deployment, pistol=good choice, Judge with Dragons Breath=great choice.

I'm glad we are all now in agreement and back on topic.

AR=Situational, pistol=situational, Judge with Dragon's Breath=all day er'day.
 
AZ1182 said:
So you will admit to him that you were all in the wrong but not me, the focusing of this discombobulated thing? I was repeatedly saying the same damn thing that he said all along.

Try to have some integrity, because some helpful advice from one veteran to the other; not having integrity to do the right thing even when proven wrong, actually besmirches your honor if you even have any.

Never admitted to him I was wrong simply acknowledged the potential for a misunderstanding. What's your experience and elaborate on usage? I'm not asking for your service record here or a DD214. Once I get that information I can maybe do something like this.

"OH, I see how that could work."

or

"OH, I get why you'd think that but don't you think (insert variable here) would cause issues?"

Back to the topic at hand.

Here's a video of a uh mobile blockade?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUNGq9W6iJk
 
AZ1182 said:
Pretty sure we're all not in agreement here, this isn't subvert or be ridiculed as this is how none of this actually works.

And unless that handgun is within easy reach say appendix or if not being yanked out and having it within immediate access from a holster or console, you ain't going to be able to get it out fast enough to do anything. Just goes to show just how much delusional people of any age are when they're focusing on their biased egos and not actual critical thinking

So the real bottom line: You all do you, don't worry about what the other would do, and stay in your own lanes. Get training, you're supposed to be running your guns and not your mouths to begin with anyways.

So either fess up and admit that you were all wrong and let this thread carry on without the armchair quarterbacking to what another says that you're not reading correctly or by association fallacies, or leave things be without being a child trying to get that last spiteful post in.
Yeah, kinda like ex-wives, so they say, always find a way to get in the last word and make it your fault... Ranger has returned...priceless.
 
AZ1182 said:
Pretty sure we're all not in agreement here, this isn't subvert or be ridiculed as this is how none of this actually works.

And unless that handgun is within easy reach say appendix or if not being yanked out and having it within immediate access from a holster or console, you ain't going to be able to get it out fast enough to do anything. Just goes to show just how much delusional people of any age are when they're focusing on their biased egos and not actual critical thinking

So the real bottom line: You all do you, don't worry about what the other would do, and stay in your own lanes. Get training, you're supposed to be running your guns and not your mouths to begin with anyways.

So either fess up and admit that you were all wrong and let this thread carry on without the armchair quarterbacking to what another says that you're not reading correctly or by association fallacies, or leave things be without being a child trying to get that last spiteful post in.

WTF is your problem?!?

We have all tried to end this retarded rambling, many have made concessions to you, and you STILL pontificate.

F#ck...

I hope you are not married, I would feel sorry for your wife...
 
SecretV said:
XJThrottle said:
Speaking the the Judge, are the polymer ones POS?

I have no idea, but this guy made a 2000 round update on it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gu3mwjfEDWE

I have never heard anything negative about them, except that the recoil is not for the faint minded or older folks with weak wrists.

They come with a lifetime guarantee, and I have had pretty good luck with their revolvers.
 
Ya know, when everyone you run into is crazy, perhaps you should rethink who the crazy one is. Similar to being right and everyone else being wrong.

Once you put everyone on your ignore list, who will you argue with?
 
Jager said:
I saw this thread and, early on, mocked it by invoking the movie "Fury" - and swore I would not engage in what I knew was going to become an exercise in measuring devices. I only entered to point out that pages of this thread have been devoted to demanding explanations from AZ1182 for a posit he never made.

So pardon me if I refuse the offered straw men. :|

You're not wrong but to be fair I never claimed to be well endowed so the bar was pretty low.
 
Jager said:
You're not wrong but to be fair I never claimed to be well endowed so the bar was pretty low.

And in truth, the only reason i revisit this thread is because the female that works at the Ronald McDonald house in the video on page two is smokin'. :)

Damn you...now I have to revisit page 2 :clap:

ETA: I would break social distancing rules for her...
 
Jager said:
I would break social distancing rules for her...


She told me of a few years living at a handful of RMH's around the country while undergoing treatments. Her family was always able to be with her - and RMH did not give up on her. Ever. And they never charge a family a dime. She said they were always good to her - and as she shared the memories of her treatment and recovery - that were obviously miserable, she would always light up and make everyone in the room smile. Me included.

RMH gave her more than a life.

They gave her a spark.

This is a great story, and I thank you for sharing it.

I see the ads for St. Jude's and wonder about them too. There IS still good in this world, we just have to look harder to find it these days.
 
back in early 80s when they started a rmd house here, jan of jans plumbing came to our office and asked some assistance to rehab a joint,
we brought together a dozen other contractors to work on the joint, and get it prepped for usage, believe it or not the city of phx, pushed back some, due to the zoning, but eventually capitulated to allow it.
great place for folks and troublesome issues. and it was a pleasure to assist.
Have done free gratis work for years, as have many other contractors, a way of giving back to community.
in fact Hobbs brought a couple to the table at one time, dang sure miss that guy
Rj
 
I agree, RJ.

Hobbs is sorely missed, especially these days.

I am glad that some of us "old folks" haven't forgotten him.
 

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knockonit said:
back in early 80s when they started a rmd house here, jan of jans plumbing came to our office and asked some assistance to rehab a joint,
we brought together a dozen other contractors to work on the joint, and get it prepped for usage, believe it or not the city of phx, pushed back some, due to the zoning, but eventually capitulated to allow it.
great place for folks and troublesome issues. and it was a pleasure to assist.
Have done free gratis work for years, as have many other contractors, a way of giving back to community.
in fact Hobbs brought a couple to the table at one time, dang sure miss that guy
Rj

Mrs. Flash and I spent around 10 years working with Christmas In April rehabbing homes for the elderly, handicapped and financially strapped. It was pretty gratifying and a lot of work but worth it.
 
Jager said:
The average daily 'battlefield' is me schmucking around like everybody else. Home, store, work, picking up and dropping off females which includes my girls. My sidearm choice is probably adequate for most any encounter I might realistically face. Most violent encounters with handguns involve 3 rounds fired cumulatively by both sides - and the fight is over. Someone prevails, someone doesn't. Even if there are a few assailants and 10-15 rounds are exchanged and all players are still intact, both parties are generally wanting to get the f*** away from each other - and that is exactly what my actions will be. Moving to my vehicle. And leaving. My 1911 and a few mags will probably serve well enough in all the above mentioned scenarios.

Today, we have some spot anarchy and chaos. First order is avoid it. But since I'm not included in their planning sessions - I know I could walk or drive into a party I wasn't aware of and wasn't invited to. So, I've switched to a 9mm full size 15+1 and a spare magazine or two on me. 5 more magazines in the vehicle. Same long arm. More bad guy (numbers) potential? More bullets on board.

Tenet: Never run out of bullets before you run out of bad guys.

Nobody with sense is going to bail out of an operable vehicle, especially not if they can simply back up (as in the video) and leave. "Run like a girl" is my motto. I don't give a F if I have two forward mounted .50's. I'm LEAVING.

If they mob my vehicle and want to start touching me, I'm running them the f*** over. If they disable or block my egress, then I'm using my handgun to clear a path to my long arm (about 15 seconds is my estimate and I have 15 rounds) and then it plays out with my intent to run like a girl - and cutting a swathe through any blockers until I am clear of the hot LZ I've found myself stuck in. Escape and Evade. We all know the drill - or should. If they overwhelm me getting out of my disabled/blocked vehicle while I'm trying to access my long arm (grasshopper on an ant pile) - then it just isn't my day. But there will be more of them dead than the one of me - so they lose the war of attrition.

And I've always been good with that.

Thanks for getting back on topic. I agree with almost all of your post and think it's a sound strategy.
By the way, is this you?
 

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Jager said:
I saw this thread and thought, "Dick measuring contest imminent". I swore not to participate other than my essentially mocking it by invoking the disabled Sherman tank "Fury" and the inbound SS Battalion.

But I'm going to toss my nickel in because there might be some value in getting some basics and essentials out there in case we are faced with various unlawful methods of detention, which is what these roadblocks are by definition. And they do have the potential to become deadly.

My mindset. Long arm reasonably accessible (for me that means trunk) or in elevated risk areas, back seat floorboard. Not going to be introduced or deployed if egress is possible.

As a side note - when 'battlefield' conditions change, you tend to change your gear. I typically carry a 1911, 8+1 and at least 1 or two spare 8 round magazines. I have 5 more in the vehicle. But I have a long arm there, too, just in case.

The average daily 'battlefield' is me schmucking around like everybody else. Home, store, work, picking up and dropping off females which includes my girls. My sidearm choice is probably adequate for most any encounter I might realistically face. Most violent encounters with handguns involve 3 rounds fired cumulatively by both sides - and the fight is over. Someone prevails, someone doesn't. Even if there are a few assailants and 10-15 rounds are exchanged and all players are still intact, both parties are generally wanting to get the f*** away from each other - and that is exactly what my actions will be. Moving to my vehicle. And leaving. My 1911 and a few mags will probably serve well enough in all the above mentioned scenarios.

Today, we have some spot anarchy and chaos. First order is avoid it. But since I'm not included in their planning sessions - I know I could walk or drive into a party I wasn't aware of and wasn't invited to. So, I've switched to a 9mm full size 15+1 and a spare magazine or two on me. 5 more magazines in the vehicle. Same long arm. More bad guy (numbers) potential? More bullets on board.

Tenet: Never run out of bullets before you run out of bad guys.

Nobody with sense is going to bail out of an operable vehicle, especially not if they can simply back up (as in the video) and leave. "Run like a girl" is my motto. I don't give a F if I have two forward mounted .50's. I'm LEAVING.

If they mob my vehicle and want to start touching me, I'm running them the f*** over. If they disable or block my egress, then I'm using my handgun to clear a path to my long arm (about 15 seconds is my estimate and I have 15 rounds) and then it plays out with my intent to run like a girl - and cutting a swathe through any blockers until I am clear of the hot LZ I've found myself stuck in. Escape and Evade. We all know the drill - or should. If they overwhelm me getting out of my disabled/blocked vehicle while I'm trying to access my long arm (grasshopper on an ant pile) - then it just isn't my day. But there will be more of them dead than the one of me - so they lose the war of attrition.

And I've always been good with that.

Speaking of not being invited here's some info for tomorrow.

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