Boriqua said:
kenpoprofessor said:
My gawd, the stupid here is overwhelming lately. Maybe I need to do an RJ.
Clyde
Must be extremely difficult for you to be the smartest guy in every room you enter.
Well he devotes what little mental horsepower he has to trying to be the smartest guy in the room, he doesn't have enough left to actually be it. That is why he always defaults to the same, predictable, and pointless behavior when he fails to grasp simple concepts and stomps around like a petulant child on here if he doesn't comprehend something or disagrees.
There are more people than Baldwin responsible for what happened. The court system knows this, and has done the right thing by charging both Baldwin and the Armorer. I think the charges are a bit light, but that is a matter of opinion.
Here are some facts - simple google research will show.
The armorer chick (Hannah Gutierrez Reed) has changed her story about why live ammo was on set at least two or three times. The cast/crew stated she brought live ammo so the guns could be shot "for fun" outside of production. She then claimed that since the ammo was left out for several hours, a "disgruntled worker" sabotaged it:
Lawyers for Reed Jason Bowles and Robert Gorence claimed that the bullets their client loaded into the gun on the day of the shooting were taken from a box that was only supposed to contain dummy rounds that were incapable of firing. However, because the ammunition was left unattended from roughly 11 a.m. to 1 p.m. that day, they believe the opportunity was there for a disgruntled crew member to mix a live round into the box.
She then claimed it was the suppliers fault (yet as an armorer she can't tell the difference between a live round, a blank, and a dummy?)
Gutierrez Reed accuses PDQ Arm and Prop, LLC. and its founder Seth Kenney of violation of trade practices, false and deceptive product labels, and false and material misrepresentations after, Gutierrez Reed alleges, Kenney sold her a cache of dummy ammunition with live rounds mixed in.
But when that didn't really work - she fell back on she had live ammo to show the actors "how it felt to shoot a gun for real."
Reed said that using live ammunition helped the actors get the feel of a firing a gun, so they would know how to do the recoil during a scene.
Keep in mind - this was on a production / set where there was supposed to be zero live ammo.
Gutierrez Reed said that prop master Sarah Zachry removed the guns from the truck and brought them to her. Gutierrez Reed also said she handed the gun to Baldwin multiple times and also handed it to assistant director Dave Halls. Halls handed the gun to Baldwin before the fatal shooting, according to the warrant.
Handled it multiple times - still didn't check it.
Zachry Davis, costume designer said, “She’s gross. I’m so disugusted [sic] by her right now. She f***ed up. She got someone killed. And rather than take responsibility and face it, she’s trying to take everyone else down with her.”
In a later message, Davis writes that Reed “didn’t do her job properly. And she had plenty of time to do so because we had extra time that morning while camera was f***ing off. So she can say what she wants about training time and all that bullshit but it’s not why she killed Halyna.”
“There are protocols in place that would have prevented Halyna’s death if Hannah had been following them,” Davis adds later. “She broke SO many, by her own admission. That’s willful negligence. She’s liable. She’ll go down for manslaughter.”
The "professional" responsible for firearm safety handled what was supposed to be a "cold" gun (no live ammo, no blanks) multiple times before it ended up in Baldwin's hands and didn't even check it apparently.
Baldwin’s stunt double accidentally fired two rounds Saturday after being told that the gun was “cold” — lingo for a weapon that doesn’t have any ammunition, including blanks — two crew members who witnessed the episode told the Los Angeles Times.
“There should have been an investigation into what happened,” a crew member said. “There were no safety meetings. There was no assurance that it wouldn’t happen again. All they wanted to do was rush, rush, rush.”
Safety protocols standard in the industry, including gun inspections, were not strictly followed on the “Rust” set near Santa Fe, the sources said. They said at least one of the camera operators complained last weekend to a production manager about gun safety on the set.
On April 20, it was announced that the New Mexico Occupational Health and Safety Bureau had fined Rust Movie Productions $136,793 for a lack of firearms safety — reportedly the maximum fine allowed.
Over the course of their investigation, the bureau reportedly found that there was no on-set protocol to ensure that no live rounds were on the film set, and that multiple complains from crew members about gun safety were ignored. “What we had, based on our investigators’ findings, was a set of obvious hazards to employees regarding the use of firearms and management’s failure to act upon those obvious hazards,” said bureau chief Bob Genoway of the investigation.
She worked on "The Old Way" before Rust - and the crew on that film wanted her fired because she was incompetent. Nic Cage himself reportedly went off on her for unsafe practices on that movie.
This was a perfect cocktail of gross negligence. The person responsible for the firearms, ammo, and safety was negligent. The production team (including Baldwin) was negligent in their duties to ensure safety, and reasonable working conditions. I hope the two of them (especially the Armorer) get the book thrown at them. Placing the blame 100% on Baldwin (as much as I despise him and his ilk) isn't right. He shares it with others - as the courts agree. Given we aren't "pros" working in this industry - it is hard to understand how it is logical that the entirety of firearms safety was basically placed on one person for a movie production (because it is production - and more "efficient" to have one "expert" in charge instead of training up everyone....) - but at least we now know what happens when that person is really, really bad at their job. People die. It is pretty obvious what happened with all this.
