AIWB and BAM!

[Copperhead]

I carry Glocks always... and always use a holster and Saf-T-Blok,
Also, as previously mentioned, when using a concealed carry IWB holster I never re-holster in place.

That's interesting, I've never seen the Saf T Blok, for what it takes to operate, it looks almost as easy to fumble with as a safety.
What do you mean by "in place"?

Saf-T-Blok is very easy, smooth and natural in use, I do practice drawing with it.
I use clip in IWB holsters, in a front pocket, cross draw.
When using an IWB and re-holstering, I remove the holster first, then replace the Saf-T-Blok and put the Glock back in the holster before clipping the holster back in my pocket.

Not at all trying to be a quick-draw gunfighter or concerned about appearances. I do wish to carry an effective size pistol conveniently and comfortably as I do move around a lot, in and out of vehicles and up and down at my desk all day. This works well for me and I've never been made. When people around me need to know I'm carrying they are almost always surprised.

Glock 30 or 36.

 

[Pro2a]

I am just going come out and say it. Carrying AIWB or as the dumbshit in the video did, which is NOT AIWB carry, is just stupid.

Most do it for the perception of being a serious MFkr

Ok I’m lost. How is it not AIWB?
I’m trying to get used to it because it facilitates the fastest presentation, and I want any edge available when talking about life or death. No badass perception intended.

 

[Pro2a]

I’m guessing that the appendix is the closest regional landmark. Plus to publicly market it and be PC, they couldn’t call it MIWB; merkin inside waistband.
Wouldn’t you also suppose your (any) method of carry slows down a bit when in a restaurant booth?

 

[Berd]

I am just going come out and say it. Carrying AIWB or as the dumbshit in the video did, which is NOT AIWB carry, is just stupid.

Most do it for the perception of being a serious MFkr

Ok I’m lost. How is it not AIWB?
I’m trying to get used to it because it facilitates the fastest presentation, and I want any edge available when talking about life or death. No badass perception intended.

AIWB ([glow=red]Appendix[/glow] Inside the Waistband). I have never heard or read about a man having their appendix above their frank and beans.

[glow=red]"it facilitates the fastest presentation"[/glow] ?? Yeah I'd like to see that while your sitting in restaurant booth.

Perfectly comfortable drawing in a restaurant booth. Done drills with people sitting on either side of me on a bench.

Drawn it sitting in my truck seat too.

If anything I think AIWB is easier to draw seated than strong side carry.

AIWB Glock 19 in a Keeper's Concealmeant holster for me. All day long.

 

[Viper 1-26 INF]

Ok I’m lost. How is it not AIWB?
I’m trying to get used to it because it facilitates the fastest presentation, and I want any edge available when talking about life or death. No badass perception intended.

AIWB ([glow=red]Appendix[/glow] Inside the Waistband). I have never heard or read about a man having their appendix above their frank and beans.

[glow=red]"it facilitates the fastest presentation"[/glow] ?? Yeah I'd like to see that while your sitting in restaurant booth.

Perfectly comfortable drawing in a restaurant booth. Done drills with people sitting on either side of me on a bench.

Drawn it sitting in my truck seat too.

If anything I think AIWB is easier to draw seated than strong side carry.

AIWB Glock 19 in a Keeper's Concealmeant holster for me. All day long.

I'm in agreeance. I find AIWB to be faster to draw and fire from all positions. It also gives you more security and control if one was trying to go for your gun. If you know what you are doing and train, AIWB is the best carry method IMO. I carry AIWB all day, every day, and have done so with Glocks, HKs, and SIGs for many years. Knowing what you are doing, training, and having a good holster are key.

 

[Tim McBride]

Hmm, interesting. Well, maybe you and Berd should be doing YouTube videos showing how efficient and safe it is to draw a loaded weapon from Frank & Beans carry. If you are concerned with anonymity, blacking out your faces or just put a paper bag over your head.

You have an obsession with were the gun is pointed at.

 

[Berd]

Perfectly comfortable drawing in a restaurant booth. Done drills with people sitting on either side of me on a bench.

Drawn it sitting in my truck seat too.

If anything I think AIWB is easier to draw seated than strong side carry.

AIWB Glock 19 in a Keeper's Concealmeant holster for me. All day long.

I'm in agreeance. I find AIWB to be faster to draw and fire from all positions. It also gives you more security and control if one was trying to go for your gun. If you know what you are doing and train, AIWB is the best carry method IMO. I carry AIWB all day, every day, and have done so with Glocks, HKs, and SIGs for many years. Knowing what you are doing, training, and having a good holster are key.

Hmm, interesting. Well, maybe you and Berd should be doing YouTube videos showing how efficient and safe it is to draw a loaded weapon from Frank & Beans carry. If you are concerned with anonymity, blacking out your faces or just put a paper bag over your head.

Or I could just keep carrying a handgun in what is in many experienced people's preferred method of carrying a handgun and not give a flying f*** about your woefully ignorant opinion.

I choose the latter.

 

[Tim McBride]

Hmm, interesting. Well, maybe you and Berd should be doing YouTube videos showing how efficient and safe it is to draw a loaded weapon from Frank & Beans carry. If you are concerned with anonymity, blacking out your faces or just put a paper bag over your head.

You have an obsession with were the gun is pointed at.

You Gdamn right!

If you don't, you shouldn't be handling firearms.

So you take issue at having the gun pointed at the penis(we are adults, no need to say frank and beans), but have no issue pointing it at the femur, femoral artery and nerve bundle?

 

[Tim McBride]

Or I could just keep carrying a handgun in what is in many experienced people's preferred method of carrying a handgun and not give a flying f*** about your woefully ignorant opinion.

I choose the latter.

Wow now Berd, you and I clearly have no idea what we are doing. We might shoot off our penis, I mean, frank and beans.

 

[Viper 1-26 INF]

Perfectly comfortable drawing in a restaurant booth. Done drills with people sitting on either side of me on a bench.

Drawn it sitting in my truck seat too.

If anything I think AIWB is easier to draw seated than strong side carry.

AIWB Glock 19 in a Keeper's Concealmeant holster for me. All day long.

I'm in agreeance. I find AIWB to be faster to draw and fire from all positions. It also gives you more security and control if one was trying to go for your gun. If you know what you are doing and train, AIWB is the best carry method IMO. I carry AIWB all day, every day, and have done so with Glocks, HKs, and SIGs for many years. Knowing what you are doing, training, and having a good holster are key.

Hmm, interesting. Well, maybe you and Berd should be doing YouTube videos showing how efficient and safe it is to draw a loaded weapon from Frank & Beans carry. If you are concerned with anonymity, blacking out your faces or just put a paper bag over your head.

Not concerned with anonymity, everyone knows where to find me. In all seriousness, if you aren't comfortable carrying AIWB then don't do it. I think I have enough training and combat experience under my belt to determine what will be most advantageous for me in any situation I might find myself in, and for me that is AIWB, for you it might be different. So, to each their own.

Some good write ups on the method for those who might be interested in trying it:
http://www.gunsandammo.com/tips-tactics/debunking-the-myths-of-appendix-carry/
https://www.luckygunner.com/lounge/carry-appendix-inside-waistband-aiwb/

 

[h8pvmnt]

This thread got me thinking which got me googling. I found this site, i am a fat ass so have never considered carrying like this, i don't own a holster from this company but i thought this was informational enough to share.

Why Appendix Carry

 

[azrik]

That is exactly why, for any reason other than a defensive response, I remove and replace the gun and holster as a unit.

 

[Tim McBride]

You Gdamn right!

If you don't, you shouldn't be handling firearms.

So you take issue at having the gun pointed at the penis(we are adults, no need to say frank and beans), but have no issue pointing it at the femur, femoral artery and nerve bundle?

Pointing a firearm at any part of my body is an issue.

So how do you carry?

 

[Crippledtrigger]

Every since I went from revolvers or DA pistols with hammers decocker/safety, i.e. S&W, to Glocks I added a step to the re-holater process. Guns with hammers are easy to tell if the trigger is moving cause you put your thumb on the hammer spur and any movement is easily noticed.

First, pocket carry required removing the holster from the pocket and gun placed into the holster and back into the pocket.

When we went to Glocks at work in the 90s I saw more than one instance of shit getting in the trigger guard when holstering or even after holsterd. This caused a local police officers AD from the holster while sitting in a chair. Keys got in there some how and as he stood up bang. He had a lever 3 holster at the time IIRC. I've had soft stow n go type holsters get the top corner of the holster pushed into the trigger guard as well.

So when reholstering IWB or OWB I taught myself to sweep the trigger finger over the outside of the trigger guard and my thumb does the same to the other side ensuring it touches the top of the holster. I then drive it home. I use kydex pretty much exclusively so this process is simple and quick as the gun stops at the trigger guard retention bump. It only takes a half second and eliminates the problem. I also quit carrying keys or cuffs, or anything else, on the strong side to remove any chance of a problem. Nor do I use holsters with thumb break or any other strap, strictly kydex with a rotating hood or other retention methods.

Some folks will say I'm anal but it's how I choose to further limit such issues. Folks should carry how they see fit without such pod people like pointing and screeching shit as seen here in this thread. Basically an attitude of it's not my gun or penis so do what you think is best. If someome chose to AIWB carry I would suggest a level 3 cup...if anyone cared to ask my opinion.

 

[Tim McBride]

Pointing a firearm at any part of my body is an issue.

So how do you carry?

3 to 3:30 outside, big button up shirt, no issues. I open carried up through the 90s with CC occasionally, when I carried. Then we got flooded with f**ktards from the east and Kali, so CC is
the preferable method today. But I still open carry when the notion strikes me. And yeah, I don't carry 100% of the time.

So....
You do realize that even with that method an ND could strike you in the leg right? It's very hard to carry a firearm in an accessible manner and not have it point at something on your body or another person.

 

[Berd]

I feel like this video is pertient to the current conversation

https://youtu.be/-4fXzLBe81E

 

[Tim McBride]

3 to 3:30 outside, big button up shirt, no issues. I open carried up through the 90s with CC occasionally, when I carried. Then we got flooded with f**ktards from the east and Kali, so CC is
the preferable method today. But I still open carry when the notion strikes me. And yeah, I don't carry 100% of the time.

So....
You do realize that even with that method an ND could strike you in the leg right? It's very hard to carry a firearm in an accessible manner and not have it point at something on your body or another person.

Yup.

But we as humans in our everyday normal lives we put ourselves at risk. Those of us who are wiser, are constantly working on making that risk as small as possible. There is a big difference between taking a round on the outside of my leg vs a round through my dick and redirected through an artery.

Yeah, I guy could bounce a projo off a knee cap and hit a major blood vessel, but is much less likely.

At least you can admit finally that both risk injury and are pointed at the body.

 

[Viper 1-26 INF]

I feel like this video is pertient to the current conversation

https://youtu.be/-4fXzLBe81E

Hadn't seen that video previously. Good find.

 

[Crippledtrigger]

Hmm, interesting. Well, maybe you and Berd should be doing YouTube videos showing how efficient and safe it is to draw a loaded weapon from Frank & Beans carry. If you are concerned with anonymity, blacking out your faces or just put a paper bag over your head.

Or I could just keep carrying a handgun in what is in many experienced people's preferred method of carrying a handgun and not give a flying f*** about your woefully ignorant opinion.

I choose the latter.

So no video?

Yeah I didn't think so, talkin the talk but not showing the walk.

Something tells me you are in much less danger of being hit from a ND while AIWB carrying. The chance of bullet impacting flesh is greatly diminished in your case.

 

[Viper 1-26 INF]

I feel like this video is pertient to the current conversation

https://youtu.be/-4fXzLBe81E

Hadn't seen that video previously. Good find.

Didn't see any draws while sitting in a booth.

The speed at which the pistol is drawn depends on who's pulling it. Clearly, (and this is my opinion) this guy was intentionally drawing the IWB and OWB slower. So the video is meaning less

The entire point of the video was to use a laser to show that using carrying methods other than AIWB cause you to point the muzzle at your body as much or more than AIWB method. From the video, the strong side IWB has the muzzle covering just about the entire leg on the draw, when one would be most likely to have an ND in a stressful situation (or one without adequate training). From AIWB, on draw muzzle is covering ground up to target, rather than the shooter's extremities.