6.5 Grendel opinions???

[mike400]

Thinking of building one with an 18" barrel. I have heard everything from its a tack driver to its just so so. Like to hear from some with experience in this caliber??? Worth it?

 

[Steve_In_29]

The 6.5 Grendel was designed to slightly improve on the 7.62x39 ballistics while being compatible with the AR platform.

Given that I wouldn't expect match type accuracy out of the cartridge.

 

[XJThrottle]

I should find out in a couple weeks. Just need to decide on optics for it.

The only time I've seen people be "meh" about it is when using shitty/cheap ammo.

 

[Seif]

I know a lot of people in the predator hunting world use it with great success.

 

[superduty38]

I have an 18" Grendel now and have owned several others, any good quality barrel will deliver 1 moa or less accuracy in my experience when using quality ammo. The round is far superior to the old Russian round. With even an 18" barrel the bullet stays supersonic past 1000 yards. The most info in one place for 6.5 Grendel shooters is at http://www.65grendel.com

 

[lew]

The 6.5 Grendel was designed to slightly improve on the 7.62x39 ballistics while being compatible with the AR platform.

Given that I wouldn't expect match type accuracy out of the cartridge.

The Grendel's case is based on the 7.62x39 case, but only in a roundabout way. That's where any similarity ends. It has more in common with 6 PPC. The Grendel is a very accurate cartridge (unless you're shooting Wolf, which is just blasting ammo). Think of it as the little brother of 6.5 Creedmoor- while the velocity and, therefore, range is lower, it fits in a small-frame AR and performs very well out of short barrels.

I was set on building a 12" Grendel pistol, but, between 5.56 and 6.5CM, my requirements are covered. The Grendel is a very capable cartridge within its performance envelope.

 

[Viper 1-26 INF]

I've got an 18" and 12.5" 6.5 Grendel. With good barrel (Satern), ammo (123gr Lapua Scenar) mine is sub MOA at 100. My 12.5" (Faxon barrel) is good to 800 meters, you could shoot it further, but energy is dropping pretty low at that point. I shoot Wolf in the 12.5" to 300 meters when out having fun (definitely cuts down on the cost), but you definitely lose out on the accuracy/precision potential of the caliber. When I shoot the Lapua in the 12.5", it is on par with the 18" from an accuracy/precision standpoint.

 

[Steve_In_29]

The 6.5 Grendel was designed to slightly improve on the 7.62x39 ballistics while being compatible with the AR platform.

Given that I wouldn't expect match type accuracy out of the cartridge.

The Grendel's case is based on the 7.62x39 case, but only in a roundabout way. That's where any similarity ends. It has more in common with 6 PPC. The Grendel is a very accurate cartridge (unless you're shooting Wolf, which is just blasting ammo). Think of it as the little brother of 6.5 Creedmoor- while the velocity and, therefore, range is lower, it fits in a small-frame AR and performs very well out of short barrels.

I was set on building a 12" Grendel pistol, but, between 5.56 and 6.5CM, my requirements are covered. The Grendel is a very capable cartridge within its performance envelope.

I NEVER said the round was "based" on the x39.

The simple fact is that the STATED goal of the round's designers was to "better the performance of the 7.62x39 and allow the new cartridge to be used from an otherwise standard AR and mag ".

 

[17-21-23]

I built a Grendel a few months ago. I have a 24" 1:7, and its not a 300 yard gun. Its a 600 -1100 yards gun. 18" barrel is not prime for this round. 20"+ is what you want to do. I have a Vortex Gen1 PST 6-24x50 FFP scope on mine. This AR rifle is definitely meant to reach out ant touch someone with superb accuracy. You will also want to be sure and roll your own rounds for this gun cause the store bought ones suck a$$ and are very expensive unless you by crap ammo and then you get you pay for. Unlike the bolt action in the same caliber you are limited as to what fits in the magazine as far eliminating your free-bore. I used BLC-2 and CFE to start but they were not exactly tac drivers so now i am using IMR 8208 XBR with 123gr SST bullets bet depending on what you want to do with the rifle you can go down to 90 gr bullets. I am using Starfire brass and they are $125 for 250 peices (new)

 

[lew]

The 6.5 Grendel was designed to slightly improve on the 7.62x39 ballistics while being compatible with the AR platform.

Given that I wouldn't expect match type accuracy out of the cartridge.

The Grendel's case is based on the 7.62x39 case, but only in a roundabout way. That's where any similarity ends. It has more in common with 6 PPC. The Grendel is a very accurate cartridge (unless you're shooting Wolf, which is just blasting ammo). Think of it as the little brother of 6.5 Creedmoor- while the velocity and, therefore, range is lower, it fits in a small-frame AR and performs very well out of short barrels.

I was set on building a 12" Grendel pistol, but, between 5.56 and 6.5CM, my requirements are covered. The Grendel is a very capable cartridge within its performance envelope.

I NEVER said the round was "based" on the x39.

The simple fact is that the STATED goal of the round's designers was to "better the performance of the 7.62x39 and allow the new cartridge to be used from an otherwise standard AR and mag ".

Well "slightly improve" is hardly correct either, as the Grendel is way more accurate and effective at longer ranges.

 

[TheRifleman]

I have 6.5 Grendel in an 18” barrel and while I think it’s a great rifle, if I had to do it all over again I would go with the 6mm version. I think the 123’s are a bit large for the case, but from what I’ve seen the 6mm 107’s are just about perfect.

 

[mike400]

Well I took the plunge and ordered the 18" barrel and parts. As soon as I get it up and running I will give a review. I went with the Brownells barrel that came with a matching headspaced bolt. I have high hopes for this one.

 

[mike400]

Well I built an 18" with a Brownells premium barrel and I went out yesterday. This was my last 3 shot group at 100 yards. I am SOLD!!! Factory American eagle 120grn OTM.

 

[lew]

Awesome! It's certainly a cool and versatile little cartridge.

 

[Azrckcrawler]

I am a big fan. I really like the reduced recoil over my old 308, availability of cheap blaster ammo (wolf) and the biggest plus is you can use an existing built AR lower. My 24" barreled upper has turned in sub moa groups at 100. Here's one of my load development targets from last year, 95yds, 123gr AMAX over 27gr AR-Comp. Outer circle is the 1st 4 shots, inner is the second.

Just built a 12" pistol a few months back. A quick sighting in at 70 yds using a foam block, red dot and 6x magnifier netted me this (Wolf on left, Hornady Black on right). I need to get out my rifle rest and see what the pistol can do.

 

[mdin14]

I have 20” 6.5 Grendel Heavy Barrel AR .....still needs to be fired. Guess the price of the Hornady factory loads keeps it parked for now. One day, I’ll try reloading.

 

[XJThrottle]

Don't want to shoot Wolf?

 

[mdin14]

I haven’t found any cheaper stuff at the local shops, but would be willing to give it a shot. Any shops in the east valley carry it that you know of.

 

[XJThrottle]

I bought a 500rd case online a while back. It's still unfired, so I don't have an opinion. I'd be willing to part with some of you're interested.

I'll have to look and see what I paid.

 

[Azrckcrawler]

This place is in Phoenix and shows Wolf in stock, $139 plus tax for 500 rounds.

http://unammo.com/

J&G in Prescott was selling it for approx $115/500 but prices have drifted upwards since the last time I bought.

If you want brass for reloading the 200 round ammo can of Hornady American Gunner @ Sportsmen's Warehouse is about the best deal going, also @$139. I caught it on sale last fall for $89/200 which is cheaper than buying 200 pieces of Hornady brass.