How many lowers do you have?
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needsmostuff
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My wife thought they were aluminum scrap and threw them in the recycle bin.
Bless her heart, she saved the planet.
Bless her heart, she saved the planet.
Steve_In_29
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I literally have none. 17+ years in the Marines broke me of any desire to own an AR or a Beretta.
If I ever "need" an AR there will be plenty of select-fire versions laying around to chose from.
If I ever "need" an AR there will be plenty of select-fire versions laying around to chose from.
Interesting. My time in the Army convinced me that I should have at least one AR. I shoot weekly with 4 other Veterans, one a Retired Seal, one a 2 Vietnam Tour Marine and 2 Army and they all have ARs.
Select fire has very little use even in combat and that's why they went to the burst trigger as opposed to full auto.
Select fire has very little use even in combat and that's why they went to the burst trigger as opposed to full auto.
Steve_In_29
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Good for them and you but that doesn't change my opinion.Flash said:
Small caliber round in a rifle that craps where it eats and has questionable terminal ballistics when shooting people who aren't in body armor. The current green tip ammo tends to simply punch neat .224 sized holes straight through the bad guys as it exits the body before fragmentation/tumbling can take place. The SOST rounds do a much better job but aren't exactly cheap for us civilians.
I prefer something in 30 cal myself. A 122-154gr 7.62x39 round packs more punch then a 62gr 5.56 and 147gr 7.62x51 turns what would be cover from 5.56 into just concealment quite nicely.
The burst trigger was a stupid attempt by the bean counters at keeping less trained troops from wasting ammo that didn't always provide the anticipated "3rd burst". You might get 3 or 2 or (surprise surprise) simply 1, depending on where the trigger mechanism was in its burst cycle when you threw the lever into burst. You also got a noticeably different trigger feel out of each step of the cycle when firing the weapon semi-auto. Wasn't a concern in combat but we used to cycle through the steps before each shot on the range when firing for score.
Full auto has its uses and when you need it you need it. The Marines seem to agree FA still has a valid place on the modern battlefield, as they are in the process of issuing the IAR (Auto/Semi) to pretty much everyone.
My prior comment was more in the vein that there would simply be plenty of .gov issued M16s laying around if it came to it...full-auto or otherwise.
Steve_In_29
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Well Ranger1 your opinion might get more respect if it wasn't coming from the mouth of an idiot.17-21-23 said:Yup like you said opinions are just that. I'm not saying your opinion is wrong, it's just not right
Which of the facts I stated would you like to attempt to strain your brain refuting or was the drive-by, "you're wrong" reply all you can muster?
First off. I'm not Ranger1. Second you should respect others opinions as much as you respect your own. Everything you mentioned is based on your opinion. Now I have first hand knowledge of what I speak of you just don't like it. It seems like anything you don't like must scare you because all you do is attack it. You should really stop the hate. Other can have their opinions too, not just you.
Steve_In_29
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Well not since you changed your name. Can't admit to being a retread or you get banned again. But even with a new name you never bother to change your posting style.17-21-23 said:
Where did I not respect someone's opinion? I never said Flash's opinion was wrong, I simply stated that his opinion on the subject didn't change mine and then provided some facts as to why I held mine. You on the other hand didn't give an opinion, you simply did a drive by telling me mine was wrong without addressing any of the facts I had posted. Seems you don't practice what you are trying to preach.
Sorry but it's not "just my opinion" when troops in the combat zones are reporting the fact that green tip zips through bodies. Ballistic testing backs them up.
Nor is it "just my opinion" that x39 and .308 hits harder then 5.56. It's called physics.
The reasoning behind and issues with the burst trigger aren't "just my opinion". I was in when it was put into service and the information was common knowledge att.
The Marines fielding the IAR is also not "just my opinion".
Those are what's known as facts. Facts that I provided to explain why I held the opinion I did.
Yet you haven't spoken of anything. Simply threw out a generic, "you're wrong". The only knowledge you have displayed in this thread is a compulsion to buy AR lowers. I have a bit of knowledge as well by the way...2/5, 2/9, 3/8 (Beirut), 2/1, 1/4, 3rd LAR (Somalia) and two years in JSOC. Seven deployments, gold jump wings and a Combat Action Ribbon.
Stating facts to back up my opinion is "attacking" huh? Seems you got your feels hurt simply because I said I had no interest in owning an AR and preferred .30 caliber weapons. Which apparently threatened your manhood in some way.
Gee Ranger1 I didn't know you were such a SJW.
Again not Ranger1. Do you and him have a thing or something. You talk a lot about him. You two married? I don't feel like I need to tell everyone what I have done in my life to somehow pump up my ego Steve_in_29. I don't need to discuss my back ground to feel like I'm Lord Of The Flies here. But you do. Whatever you did and what others did with what ever rifle you did it with are facts. Your right there. Facts that they had opinions on how they worked for them. You put a green tip 556, 308 ,762x39, hell what ever you want through someone's head it will stop them if not ameadetly very soon. Now if you can't shoot worth a sh!t then it doesn't matter what you use. It's a fact if you don't hook up before the door and jump your main parachute won't open. Fact. It's not that the parachute is junk , it's that the operator isn't using it properly. I would have to say some of what you say is operator error and some is not.
Crippledtrigger
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17-21-23 said:
Not a participant in alt lifestyle nor am I a rump ranger so I have never had "lowers" "bottoms" or "tops".
As for "not nearly enough" why collect something you will never lose? Also, since its unlikely the gooberment will ban receptive sodomites this is a moot point.
Crippledtrigger said:
Someone else with a crush on Ranger1. Here , you can buy AR lowers and turn them into different calibers. There are so many different variations of the weapon getting cheap lowers when you can is a good thing.
Crippledtrigger
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Dont you mean turn out?
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