Can any 5.56mm rifle currently on the market really make a significant improvement on the current crop of AR15
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Re: Can any 5.56mm rifle currently on the market really make a significant improvement on the current crop of AR15
The aug /F90, Ace, x95, and scar are goo options with ups and downs
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Re: Can any 5.56mm rifle currently on the market really make a significant improvement on the current crop of AR15
Nothing really new underneath the hood.Kwisak wrote: ↑August 11th, 2018, 7:07 pm The Aug /F90, Based on 1960s design, with the bolt face and method of camming seeming to reflect the influence of Stoner's design
Ace based on 1930s (trigger based on M1 Garand)/1940s (AK47 action) designs
x95 based on 1930s/1940s designs (M1 Garand/AK47 long stroke gas piston action)
scar based on 1960s design (repackaged AR18 action)
are good options with ups and downs
Re: Can any 5.56mm rifle currently on the market really make a significant improvement on the current crop of AR15
Then after all these pages we have went through .the answer is no. It was a bad design to start with and it's a bad design to this day. Nothing but crap. I would take a mini 14 over it any dayTim McBride wrote: ↑June 20th, 2018, 8:27 am Sig550, Bren 805, SCAR16, etc etc
People keep coming up with new 5.56mm guns, most are heavier, most are using pistons. However, do any of them offer a real substantial improvement over the current crop of AR15s?
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I will probably regret asking but...Ranger1 wrote: ↑August 11th, 2018, 9:59 pmThen after all these pages we have went through .the answer is no. It was a bad design to start with and it's a bad design to this day. Nothing but crap. I would take a mini 14 over it any dayTim McBride wrote: ↑June 20th, 2018, 8:27 am Sig550, Bren 805, SCAR16, etc etc
People keep coming up with new 5.56mm guns, most are heavier, most are using pistons. However, do any of them offer a real substantial improvement over the current crop of AR15s?
How did you draw that conclusion from what has been posted in this thread?
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Re: Can any 5.56mm rifle currently on the market really make a significant improvement on the current crop of AR15
Uh oh, steve is poking the all knowing for a direct answer, this outta be good.
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Re: Can any 5.56mm rifle currently on the market really make a significant improvement on the current crop of AR15
It's easy. The OP asked do they really make a significant improvement. By what I was confronted with the barrel is the same so is the ammo. God has spoken . No ,no significant improvement at all.
Re: Can any 5.56mm rifle currently on the market really make a significant improvement on the current crop of AR15
That KM rifle i a New twist on an old design. Cool but at 1700.00 plus still does not beat the AR in anyway except OAL with a 17" barrel. Id still like one as i always wanted a Bushmaster but that production was from the Ban Era.
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Not saying it's not a nice rifle but what "new twist" did they put on the bullpup design?
The concept of which dates back to at least 1901 by the way.
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Re: Can any 5.56mm rifle currently on the market really make a significant improvement on the current crop of AR15
Chime in .... I will take 3 or 4 standard AR's before paying the money for a "Flash AR" JMHO
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Re: Can any 5.56mm rifle currently on the market really make a significant improvement on the current crop of AR15
I can see you put a lot of deep thought into coming to that conclusion. Thanks for sharing it.