Which bull-pup are top choices?
Re: Which bull-pup are top choices?
I had an AUG briefly back in 1993. Exceptional rifles. I have owned three Tavors. Also exceptional. I prefer the Tavor, but wouldn’t turn down either.
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Re: Which bull-pup are top choices?
I had a Tavor for a while but it didn't make me love it. I would like to have a AUG and the M17s looks interesting as well.
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Re: Which bull-pup are top choices?
My Rdb runs great with Magpul mags, usgi mags fall out, known problem and I believe Keltec will fix it just never bothered, triggers not bad at all
Used to own the old Bushmaster m17
Used to own the old Bushmaster m17
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That KM looks good... IIRC, it looks a little like the old Bushmaster - are they related?
ETA.. it looks like they are... From what I read online K&M started modifying the BM 17S to fix the problems and evolved into making their own.
I'll add it to the list.
A quick search of GB showed another maker... the DesertTech MDR - anyone have any trigger time with one of these? Looks like the frame can be converted to multiple calibers 556-308 etc
ETA.. it looks like they are... From what I read online K&M started modifying the BM 17S to fix the problems and evolved into making their own.
I'll add it to the list.
A quick search of GB showed another maker... the DesertTech MDR - anyone have any trigger time with one of these? Looks like the frame can be converted to multiple calibers 556-308 etc
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Re: Which bull-pup are top choices?
Only have 15-20k through AUG.... a buddy swears by his tavor.
I’ll take the AUG any day .... nato stock for ar mag compatibility...
Easy barrel swaps... less than a minute if you are slow... have a 14” /16”/20”or the 24”(light or heavy).
FWIW..... YMMV
I’ll take the AUG any day .... nato stock for ar mag compatibility...
Easy barrel swaps... less than a minute if you are slow... have a 14” /16”/20”or the 24”(light or heavy).
FWIW..... YMMV
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Re: Which bull-pup are top choices?
Realistically, assuming you aren't made of money, AUG, Tavor, and RDB.
Also, there is the new M17s, which I own, and it is fine gun.
Also, there is the new M17s, which I own, and it is fine gun.
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Well I own 2 of them (A Tavor & a RFB). Both have been reliable over the years with little to no problems. The only downside that I have noticed is using the Tavor and shooting 5.56x45, produces a supersonic sound that MY ears just can't handle. I have several AR15 + a full auto one and have never had a hearing this issue with any of them. But the Tavor being so short, it would actually hurt my ears (Even with double hearing protection Plugs+Muff's). I decided to convert it to 9mm a few years back, and now its one of my favorite toys to shoot. Its a tac driver out to 50-70yrds. Love it. The Tavor has had a squib followed by a followup round (a couple of years ago - not my reloads/somebody elses), It survived it with no issues. The only part that needed replacement was the dust shield.
The Keltec RFB has been a reliable semi-long distance weapon ( 500-700yrds) are no problem. It also has been a really reliable weapon and has never had to go back to the factory for any repairs. The only down side I have seen with it is that "If your shooting up hill, ie Above you) since it ejects the cartridges via a slide towards the front of the weapon", it has a habit of jamming spent cartridges in that slide. Shooting it level or downwards is no problem.
Other than those 2 issues (one which most people may not even notice), they are both great guns.
They also take up less space in the safe because they are shorter !
The Keltec RFB has been a reliable semi-long distance weapon ( 500-700yrds) are no problem. It also has been a really reliable weapon and has never had to go back to the factory for any repairs. The only down side I have seen with it is that "If your shooting up hill, ie Above you) since it ejects the cartridges via a slide towards the front of the weapon", it has a habit of jamming spent cartridges in that slide. Shooting it level or downwards is no problem.
Other than those 2 issues (one which most people may not even notice), they are both great guns.
They also take up less space in the safe because they are shorter !
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Thanks for that assessment storage_man...
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Re: Which bull-pup are top choices?
I have owned or shot an FS2000, Aug and and RDB. If I had to choose a go to war / high volume shooting rifle it would be the Aug or FS2000. Both have been totally reliable with quality ammo. My reloads at times screwed things up, not the rifles fault, mine. I am shooting an RDB now. It costs a 1/3 of the other two and has been 100% with quality ammo. No problems with mine and about 1500 rounds through it. I use it in 3 gun, so it is my all round rifle. To each his own but for the money I will be keeping the RDB and shooting the heck out of it.
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Re: Which bull-pup are top choices?
The tavor is my top choice. I took it out for the first time and it felt natural to shoot. I really enjoyed shooting the rifle and the size is great.
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Re: Which bull-pup are top choices?
I like the looks of the FS2000 but choke on the price.
I'm impressed with all the glowing reports on the Keltec offering- they just seem so rough looking- like a club... might have to shoot one sometime.
The AUG is a classic... like having a 65 'tang.
The KM is also reminiscent of the old BM but with all the problems fixed and the MDR has interesting specs worth checking into further...
And of course, the Tavor is the current darling-It looks good and has a good rep so I might be able to find a used one at a decent price more easily than the others (except for the RDB).
No decision yet on any of them, I'm still getting used to the sticker shock...
Looks like I'll have to sell a couple three guns first.
I'm impressed with all the glowing reports on the Keltec offering- they just seem so rough looking- like a club... might have to shoot one sometime.
The AUG is a classic... like having a 65 'tang.
The KM is also reminiscent of the old BM but with all the problems fixed and the MDR has interesting specs worth checking into further...
And of course, the Tavor is the current darling-It looks good and has a good rep so I might be able to find a used one at a decent price more easily than the others (except for the RDB).
No decision yet on any of them, I'm still getting used to the sticker shock...
Looks like I'll have to sell a couple three guns first.
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Re: Which bull-pup are top choices?
I have shot an AUG quite a bit and liked how it shot, would own one if I found a good deal on one. I own and shoot a Tavor and also like it a lot. I installed a better trigger in it and that has made a big difference in how it shoots for me
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Re: Which bull-pup are top choices?
Harrier wrote: ↑April 3rd, 2020, 5:31 am That KM looks good... IIRC, it looks a little like the old Bushmaster - are they related?
ETA.. it looks like they are... From what I read online K&M started modifying the BM 17S to fix the problems and evolved into making their own.
I'll add it to the list.
A quick search of GB showed another maker... the DesertTech MDR - anyone have any trigger time with one of these? Looks like the frame can be converted to multiple calibers 556-308 etc
Forgotten Weapons / InRange TV did a three episode thing on the DesertTech MDR (teardown, shooting, etc.)
Re: Which bull-pup are top choices?
I ho with Aug.
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Re: Which bull-pup are top choices?
I agree with storage_man, that weird noise/vibration/hum(?) is disconcerting with the Tavor, I've never owned a bull-pup, but have shot the Tavor, an AUG, an FS2000, an aftermarket stock on a Mini-30 (TRASH) and an MDR in 5.56. My favorite was the MDR but the AUG has the most proven record. All of them had second or third rate triggers and were way out of my budget for what they were. All of them seemed ill balanced. for the same money I would prefer a high end AR and spare cash.