Blake Masters next ATF director?

[Half Cocked]

[smithers599]

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Watch the video. Would you characterize that as "wishy washy"? Or hardcore "Weapons of war in the hands of citizens is the whole point of the 2A"?

I'd be just fine with him as ATF director.

[kenpoprofessor]

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Watch the video. Would you characterize that as "wishy washy"? Or hardcore "Weapons of war in the hands of citizens is the whole point of the 2A"?

I'd be just fine with him as ATF director.

Thing is though, as soon as that power hit, he'd put us under the same BS as all the others before him, he's not different. Pretty sure he wouldn't just go in there and fire all the agents and tell them to go home, they're not needed, like he should.

Have a great, gun carryin', Kenpo day

Clyde

[smithers599]

I guess I don't have that inside info on what he would do, only that he says the 2A protects the right of the people to own and carry guns suitable for fighting. That seems pretty different from all the others before him, but what do I know?

[kenpoprofessor]

I guess I don't have that inside info on what he would do, only that he says the 2A protects the right of the people to own and carry guns suitable for fighting. That seems pretty different from all the others before him, but what do I know?

He's a politician, so, things that come out of his mouth are either lies, or exaggerated non truths. They say one thing but do another. I want someone in the gun community, not another politician. I want someone who knows guns, not political swampism.

Have a great, gun carryin', Kenpo day

Clyde

[Twobadazbrothers]

This would be a perfect job for Sheriff Lamb

[Doc]

This would be a perfect job for Sheriff Lamb

Would have been nice to see.

[knockonit]

haha, great thread, no matter who is put in place, gun fudgers won't like'm at all, no matter the issue, ca'mon who you folks fooling, minute this guy/gal does something one doesn't agree on he/she is anti ever thing, ca'mon now fess up, we tend to eat our own if you get the drift.
Rj, living the last of 2024 what a shitty year

[BigNate]

He strikes me as slimy - as a pure politician... I guess getting Brandon Herrera in there with a flame thrower was a stretch - but I would have preferred to see someone with a bona fide history of being a 2A advocate. I'd have liked Sheriff Lamb better - but only because I believe him to be a constitutional originalist. Who knows - maybe that's part of Masters' history and I don't know it... fingers crossed that this becomes a good thing.

[baja]

I believe Masters does have a bona fide of first running as a D and when he couldn't get elected he switched to running as an R. Maybe I'm wrong but I think he's full of it.

[smithers599]

I believe Masters does have a bona fide of first running as a D and when he couldn't get elected he switched to running as an R. Maybe I'm wrong but I think he's full of it.

Had not heard he ran for office as a Democrat. Is that true or fake news? Source please?

[kenpoprofessor]

I believe Masters does have a bona fide of first running as a D and when he couldn't get elected he switched to running as an R. Maybe I'm wrong but I think he's full of it.

I have found zero evidence of that statement, so, unless you have something empirical to prove your assertion, please don't spread it around. I don't even like the guy, I think he's a big winded blowhard, but I ain't gonna lie to make him look worse than he is.

Have a great, gun carryin', Kenpo day

Clyde

[Suck My Glock]

I believe Masters does have a bona fide of first running as a D and when he couldn't get elected he switched to running as an R. Maybe I'm wrong but I think he's full of it.

Had not heard he ran for office as a Democrat. Is that true or fake news? Source please?

I've never heard that. What IS in fact known is that Blake was hanging out at Stanford with magnate Peter Thiel (one of Elon Musk's co-founders of PayPal) in 2012 and 2013, where he became (essentially) a disciple of Thiel, influenced heavily by Libertarianism, at the same time JD Vance was also doing the same under Thiel, but at Yale. Thus it is safe to infer that JD Vance and Blake Masters are pretty much on the same page with things.

[smithers599]

Yeah, Masters is a geek, but he is not a "politician." He has never held a political office. I consider Biden, Shumer, etc. to be politicians, because that is their job description. Masters ran for political office twice, and lost both times, probably because he is a lousy politician. He is a filthy rich, red-pilled idealogue. A mini-Musk.

Sheriff Lamb, on the other hand, is a politician, because he has held an elective office (sheriff). He is one of the good, red-pilled politicians, for sure.

Either one, or somebody similarly pro-2A, would be a big improvement as ATF director.

[BigNate]

I've never heard that. What IS in fact known is that Blake was hanging out at Stanford with magnate Peter Thiel (one of Elon Musk's co-founders of PayPal) in 2012 and 2013, where he became (essentially) a disciple of Thiel, influenced heavily by Libertarianism, at the same time JD Vance was also doing the same under Thiel, but at Yale. Thus it is safe to infer that JD Vance and Blake Masters are pretty much on the same page with things.

OK - so this (the chunk I made bold and underlined above) is encouraging to me. I've said a bunch of times that I'm a social conservative, but a political libertarian - in other words - I genuinely believe in / hold conservative social principles - but I don't think the government should be used to advance / enforce my beliefs outside of the defense of individual and national liberty, and punishment of actual crimes that cause real harm.

Yeah, Masters is a geek, but he is not a "politician." He has never held a political office. I consider Biden, Shumer, etc. to be politicians, because that is their job description. Masters ran for political office twice, and lost both times, probably because he is a lousy politician. He is a filthy rich, red-pilled idealogue. A mini-Musk.

I guess my view of him as a "typical politician" comes from his last two campaigns here - where it seems clear to me that he hired run of the mill dirt-bag political consultants who ran smear campaigns against his opponents. The negative smear ad stuff just kills me and I hate it... It's sad that it works.

Sheriff Lamb, on the other hand, is a politician, because he has held an elective office (sheriff). He is one of the good, red-pilled politicians, for sure.

I think I've got clarity on where we disconnect - it's around the work "politician" - which I'm using as a pejorative and you are using as a factual thing without the negative connotation... You're use is probably "better," or at least "cleaner," than mine...

Either one, or somebody similarly pro-2A, would be a big improvement as ATF director.

Agreed - although finding someone "better" than the political activist anti-gun lawyer that runs it right now is not a hard task. Throw a rock into the crowd at the next major public event not held in a blue state - and whomever it hits will be "better" than who is there right now...