United Health Care CEO

[aroyobob]

It wouldn’t surprise me to find out the gun was a polymer80 type “ghost gun”, either.

I had that thought, an 80% lower the guy hadn't had time to work the kinks out of. Perhaps he doesn't have a lot of shooting opportunities where ever he's from so he completed it by watching Youtube videos and went to NY.

[QuietM4]

It wouldn’t surprise me to find out the gun was a polymer80 type “ghost gun”, either.

I had that thought, an 80% lower the guy hadn't had time to work the kinks out of. Perhaps he doesn't have a lot of shooting opportunities where ever he's from so he completed it by watching Youtube videos and went to NY.

It wouldn't matter where he was from; even if he was from a very gun friendly state, say Arizona, the smart move would be to use a Polymer80 type gun and a fuel filter/wish.com suppressor. All easily purchased via cash or even bitcoin...untraceable, no paper trail. Go out to the desert/forest and test fire it, practice tap/rack/bang procedures due to the non-cycling nature of the non-booster suppressor. Lets say he is a local of NYC...same deal; lots of gun shows in NY and neighboring states to find those items.

Bottom line; getting away with murder is not difficult; most people are stupid, or simply lack the knowledge/skill, or ability to be imaginative/creative with the means and execution.

I don't think they are going to find the guy...he's long gone. Every hour that goes by, the chances of the shooter being caught diminish exponentially.

[kenpoprofessor]

It wouldn’t surprise me to find out the gun was a polymer80 type “ghost gun”, either.

I had that thought, an 80% lower the guy hadn't had time to work the kinks out of. Perhaps he doesn't have a lot of shooting opportunities where ever he's from so he completed it by watching Youtube videos and went to NY.

Guys, please don't post how ignorant you are of gun stuff, it's not a good look for us that do a lot of stuff with guns. I've assembled at least 2 dozen Polymer80's, and most of the time, the issues I've had were with the FCG I bought to put in it. Now, other problems, a bit more difficult to tell, like the spring under the slide lock sticking up too far and not cycling when firing, but works perfectly when function checking.

This kid knew what he was doing, how the gun would react to a tilted barrel weapon with a suppressor with no Nielson device. If he was a "pro", he would've used something with a fixed barrel.

Have a great, gun carryin' Kenpo day

Clyde

[knockonit]

lol, dont matter if pro or not, he got the job done, or was it a woman, and was it real or ai ca'mon now, and biden was a good prez

and on second thought who gives a crap, hes dead, and no one will find the so called ''wacker''

[chopper72]

I am not sure the guy had a personal vendetta. This may be more ideological - a hit against the robber barons.

[BigNate]

Or could this be a warning to the health insurance industry.... Greed has a price to pay. We will see.

How stupid do you have to be to believe this s***?

No offense - but - if what is being reported about markings on the casings - I think that this being revenge / warning to the industry is very likely - with the most likely alternate being that someone has a personal axe to grind with the guy and is trying to create the impression that this is the case.

If what has been reported about the three shots being "one in the leg, one in the chest, and one miss" from within 10 yards - with multiple weapons malfunctions in this series - it's pretty evident that this guy is not a "professional" (at least not professionally competent) shooter. No one who makes their living with a gun is going to go into a situation where they know they are going to use their gun, with a gun that is not extremely well tested and that they don't have a great deal of confidence will function consistently.

My best guess is that this is either a non-insurance related vendetta made to look insurance related - or its someone who had a relative with big health issues that had UHC deny treatment or claims and then had a bad result. If I were a betting man - I'd think that the latter is the most likely scenario.

Just my 2 cents...

[Creeker]

Or could this be a warning to the health insurance industry.... Greed has a price to pay. We will see.

How stupid do you have to be to believe this s***?

No offense - but - if what is being reported about markings on the casings - I think that this being revenge / warning to the industry is very likely - with the most likely alternate being that someone has a personal axe to grind with the guy and is trying to create the impression that this is the case.

If what has been reported about the three shots being "one in the leg, one in the chest, and one miss" from within 10 yards - with multiple weapons malfunctions in this series - it's pretty evident that this guy is not a "professional" (at least not professionally competent) shooter. No one who makes their living with a gun is going to go into a situation where they know they are going to use their gun, with a gun that is not extremely well tested and that they don't have a great deal of confidence will function consistently.

My best guess is that this is either a non-insurance related vendetta made to look insurance related - or its someone who had a relative with big health issues that had UHC deny treatment or claims and then had a bad result. If I were a betting man - I'd think that the latter is the most likely scenario.

Just my 2 cents...

I don’t doubt it’s some revenge thing. The idea that “greed has a price to pay” and “this could be a warning to the insurance industry” like it’s somehow justified is idiotic. It’s the same crap Taylor Lorenz is out there spewing.

[BigNate]

I don’t doubt it’s some revenge thing. The idea that “greed has a price to pay” and “this could be a warning to the insurance industry” like it’s somehow justified is idiotic. It’s the same crap Taylor Lorenz is out there spewing.

Agreed - that the leftist / marxist groups using it in this way is evil. It's also clear that the health insurance industry (more accurately called the managed healthcare industry) does some evil stuff. I am a free market guy - companies should be able to sell whatever product they want to sell - but that's not where we are today... The government intervention in that industry, combined with the soulless approach to business brought on by the Harvard MBA types, has resulted in an industry that does things in a broadly amoral way - and the natural outworking of that, when it costs lives, is that nutty people are going to do nutty things.

[smithers599]

[kenpoprofessor]

I don’t doubt it’s some revenge thing. The idea that “greed has a price to pay” and “this could be a warning to the insurance industry” like it’s somehow justified is idiotic. It’s the same crap Taylor Lorenz is out there spewing.

So, it's OK for them to steal all that money you paid them on the premium and not pay for the procedures??? I say yes, this should happen when CEOs become corrupt and are allowed to continue scamming people. I hope it happens more. What they're doing is perfectly legal unfortunately, so, what other steps are there to take? I'm down for the cause on this one.

Clyde

[BigNate]

I don’t doubt it’s some revenge thing. The idea that “greed has a price to pay” and “this could be a warning to the insurance industry” like it’s somehow justified is idiotic. It’s the same crap Taylor Lorenz is out there spewing.

So, it's OK for them to steal all that money you paid them on the premium and not pay for the procedures??? I say yes, this should happen when CEOs become corrupt and are allowed to continue scamming people. I hope it happens more. What they're doing is perfectly legal unfortunately, so, what other steps are there to take? I'm down for the cause on this one.

Clyde

Never said that - but I also don't condone assassinating people because you feel they screwed you...

I'm all for changing our law to require plain English contracts - and I'm good with imprisoning company leaders if they fraudulently harm their customers - particularly if their fraud results in physical harm.

[Creeker]

I don’t doubt it’s some revenge thing. The idea that “greed has a price to pay” and “this could be a warning to the insurance industry” like it’s somehow justified is idiotic. It’s the same crap Taylor Lorenz is out there spewing.

So, it's OK for them to steal all that money you paid them on the premium and not pay for the procedures??? I say yes, this should happen when CEOs become corrupt and are allowed to continue scamming people. I hope it happens more. What they're doing is perfectly legal unfortunately, so, what other steps are there to take? I'm down for the cause on this one.

Clyde

Not surprised that you’re all-in on something completely stupid. They’re not doing anything illegal. You voluntarily do business with them. But hey, kill ‘em all because you don’t like their business. Brilliant thought, as always.

[kenpoprofessor]

Just a note, these guy, as "smart" as they are, apparently don't know that 147gr or larger 9mm is "subsonic". I expected more from these guys, disappointed to say the least.

Have a great, gun carryin', Kenpo day

Clyde

[Suck My Glock]

Never said that - but I also don't condone assassinating people because you feel they screwed you...

We don't know the story yet,...but I suspect it is more than that. It's one thing to be thieved from. It's another thing entirely if that thieving results in the preventable death of someone I love. A preventable death that the the fraudulent thievery had advertised itself as being a solution for you to specifically prevent that preventable death. Again,...we don't know the story yet. But if it is like that,...phuk that guy.

[kenpoprofessor]

Never said that - but I also don't condone assassinating people because you feel they screwed you...

Not surprised that you’re all-in on something completely stupid. They’re not doing anything illegal. You voluntarily do business with them. But hey, kill ‘em all because you don’t like their business. Brilliant thought, as always.

We don't know the story yet,...but I suspect it is more than that. It's one thing to be thieved from. It's another thing entirely if that thieving results in the preventable death of someone I love. A preventable death that the the fraudulent thievery had advertised itself as being a solution for you to specifically prevent that preventable death. Again,...we don't know the story yet. But if it is like that,...phuk that guy.

Yep, I'm with ya. If their actions lead to the death of a family member, then, karma should get a bit of help.

Well, well, well, looky here, I think someone got a message.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/video/peoplea ... a793&ei=13




Have a great, gun carryin', Kenpo day

Clyde