Nashville School Shooting

[Dauph]

https://tennesseestar.com/news/covenant ... 024/06/07/

Covenant Killer Audrey Hale Used Federal Pell Grant Funds to Buy Guns She Used in March 2023 Mass Shooting at Christian School

[BigNate]

Here's the issue... the assessment of intent by a therapist is highly subjective and situational and we don't want to do anything that encourages them to either over-report (both damaging 2A rights, damaging their relationship with their patients, and reducing the likelihood that folks with guns will seek help) - or underreport (putting lives at risk). We should encourage them to act in a manner focused on protecting the life of their patients and society - reporting when they believe that there is a serious threat of violence from their patient. We should not penalize practitioners for doing what they believe, in their best judgement, is right for their patients.

Do I want a therapist to report to the police if their patient makes what they believe is a credible threat of violence against themselves or others? Yes... I want them to be able to do that - and I would hope that any therapist, whether a gun grabber, or a raging pro-2A activist, would do so if they honestly believed that lives were at stake.

Now the flip side of the coin... Let's pretend that a therapist reads the medical records of their new patient, one that they just took on after his previous mental health provider of 30 years retired, and in reading the records they identify that the person has guns... and that 20 years ago when they found their spouse in bed with someone else they told their old therapist that "I thought about shooting them both... but decided they weren't worth it." They just admitted to having a homicidal fantasy. Do we penalize this therapist for not going to the police to report that their patient had a homicidal fantasy? I would hope that even the most anti-2A person out there would not say that this person should be reported to the police.

It's highly subjective and people are going to be wrong from time to time.

If there were evidence that the therapist for the nut-job in Tennessee legitimately believed that their patient was homicidal and they did nothing - or worse yet they encouraged the act (let's say they are a trans activist themselves and they are on camera encouraging their nutty patient to go kill white Christian conservative homophobes' ) - then yes - hook them up... but short of that - they need to be left alone. They are suffering plenty with the knowledge that their patient killed two adults and four children.

Do I support looking at situations like the Nashville situation clinically and gathering information that can be shared with practitioners to help them better care for their patients - and better recognize signs of impending crisis - absolutely - but that is not the same as putting elevated reporting requirements in place.

My 2 cents...

[Dauph]

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/0 ... ter-audrey

[xerts1191]

Burn in hell

[Suck My Glock]

The writings provide clear statements Hale was an autistic leftist trans violent extremist, having extreme hatred for whites, America and cisgender society.

“I’d like to dispose my vagina.”

“Female pronouns make me feel like I wanna die.”

“I hate being in a woman’s body. Need to die.”

“Kill all the white kids. Kill my own race.”

“Every white person who lived and died, I hate you all”

“I have to kill so I can be remembered in the most horrific way possible that no one can ever forget.”

Hale’s rants reflect many common views among the far-left. They have been sympathetic to Hale, honoring her as a victim days after the mass killing.


https://www.ablechild.org/2025/04/06/ps ... d-they-do/

Audrey Hale is the poster child of modern psychiatric treatment. Twenty years in therapy, countless drug cocktails and Hale only got more drugged. From the little information that was provided, Hale never got better. Hale got a different therapist, a different drug cocktail and a different diagnosis, but she never got better. In fact, based on the little information that was provided about Hale’s mental health treatment, the only thing that changed was that Hale’s anger escalated and she got more drugged. And Hale even told her therapist that she had suicidal ideation and homicidal fantasies.

Unbelievably, after Hale had advised her therapist that she was suicidal and homicidal, she purchased her first AR-style rifle, and the report advises that Hale’s mother “objected to the rifle” but “her father had no problem with Hale having the firearm provided she take classes to learn how to use the rifle safely and responsibly.” These are the parental decisions being made about a gun-buying daughter that has been treated for several mental illness for twenty years and they are the people in control of the investigative evidence? At what point does law enforcement consider that Hale’s parents may share some of the responsibility of Hale’s deadly actions?

Even more bizarre, in 2021 Hale “let it slip to her therapist” that she owned a rifle. Did the therapist notify law enforcement that Hale suffered from major mental illness, was on a mind-altering drug cocktail and had had suicidal and homicidal ideation and fantasies? Nope. Didn’t happen. Again, at what point are therapists responsible for their failure to protect the public from harm?

[paulgt2164]

I am surprised more was released, I know when they released the manifesto there were lawsuits and threats from the police department and other groups against making it public.

Paints a very real picture of a mentally ill kid.