MOA vs MIL

[admin]

Not to complicate things, but there are also some scopes out there that are sometimes classified as "MOA" but actually use "IPHY". It's a minute difference, but again, since scope increments are angular, the difference is amplified over longer ranges. Just bear that in mind if you go with MOA.

[Azgunlover69]

Well I pulled the trigger on one of these I saw posted by I think devildoc. Reviews are awesome and they have a deal right now, 559 on sale for 449 and code save$170 gets you a free combo pack with rings, throw lever, level and some other stuff I don't need.
https://www.arkenopticsusa.com/sh4-6-24 ... p227953426

[TheJediknight]

still use these guys
https://www.leupold.com/

these are good too
https://www.swfa.com/

https://www.steiner-optics.com/riflescopes

[iammaxwell]

https://www.snipershide.com/precision-r ... a-vs-iphy/
May be of interest.

[delta6]

https://www.snipershide.com/precision-r ... a-vs-iphy/
May be of interest.

Been around for a few years..still a great read.

[TheAccountant]

still use these guys
https://www.leupold.com/

these are good too
https://www.swfa.com/

say hi to the bad guy
https://valdada.com/

Bad guy as in piece of s***?

[TheJediknight]

Bad guy as in piece of s***?
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fixed it...

thank you..

;o)

[admin]

I've had an IOR Valdada and while that was more than a decade ago, my experience was that the optic I had (was an adjustable magnification one), had among the best glass out there (S&B quality), but that the tracking and robustness was mediocre, at best. Perhaps things have changed in 10+ years.

[TheAccountant]

That’s always been the problem with them. Great glass, terrible mechanics.

[TheJediknight]

well i believe you because i never had one

thanks for the info

you're right....

fixed it.

yea the tracking and repeatability is important

this is what i went with in my budget and needs and turrets and reticles and good manual and matching up ballistics with my rounds and ranging....i went MILS...

https://www.leupold.com/vx-3i-lrp-65-20 ... riflescope

https://www.cabelas.com/shop/en/leupold ... ifle-scope

[BigNate]

My view is that this is like "Ford vs Chevy" - they both make trucks, both trucks work, they each have relative strengths and weaknesses.

I am personally learning both - and want to be able to use both naturally. That may not be "smart" but it is my way - I can't choose and the prepper in me wants to be sure that I have a reasonable understanding of them both so that I can pick one up and use it without being freaked out.

The typical MOA scope has a somewhat finer adjustment (POA moves less per click) so it may be better for super precise stuff like bench rest shooting. The guys that I've been shooting with seem to have settled on MIL - so I'm doing more of that right now.

[samnev]

I've used MOA scopes for years. But when I updated a few scopes I went to Mil without any problem using that system.

[xerts1191]

Great Thread

[428cj]

I use both, but as G34 posted, "one is not any better then another"
Once you set up your rifle and scope and fill out your data card or (DOPE) for that rifle, you'll just turn your knobs to correspond to the distance on your data card and shoot.

I agree with you.

[samnev]

I use both, but as G34 posted, "one is not any better then another"
Once you set up your rifle and scope and fill out your data card or (DOPE) for that rifle, you'll just turn your knobs to correspond to the distance on your data card and shoot.

I agree with you.

So do I