So you are a Rifleman?

[Doc]

Been working on my Rifleman skills and thought I would share.

If you want to test yourself here is a target:

Link
https://appleseedinfo.org/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=9833.0;attach=84902

Instructions on the paper. Post up your scores.

 

[smithers599]

Explain, please.
You print that page on an 8.5 x 11 piece of paper?
Use the top target for all shooting, and the little ones below are just stage descriptions? Or actual targets?
This is done with a rimfire rifle, right?

 

[QuangTri]

is this supposed to simulate the military (USMC at least) KD qualification course?

No elevation adjustments needed, which are a large part of KD shooting.

 

[Azgunlover69]

Explain, please.
You print that page on an 8.5 x 11 piece of paper?
Use the top target for all shooting, and the little ones below are just stage descriptions? Or actual targets?
This is done with a rimfire rifle, right?

I'm assuming here, not knowledgeable and haven't seen this til now but want to try it. Just have to wait for the desert to open.
I believe you print on an 8x11 yes. The top target is stage 1, the 2 targets below is stage 2, the 3 below are stage 3 and 4 are stage 4. It tells you how many to put on each target with mag changes and standing to prone positions.

 

[Doc]

Explain, please.
You print that page on an 8.5 x 11 piece of paper?
Use the top target for all shooting, and the little ones below are just stage descriptions? Or actual targets?
This is done with a rimfire rifle, right?

All targets are for shooting.

10 rounds Standing in 2 minutes - possible 50 points

10 rounds Standing to Seated in 50 seconds with a mag change (load 2 & 8 or if your rifle doesn't allow that load 5 & 5)
5 rounds per target - possible 50 points

10 rounds Standing to Prone in 60 seconds with a mag change (same as above)
3 on first target, 3 on second, and 4 on last - possible 50 points

10 rounds Slowfire Prone in 5 minutes. No mag change necessary
2 on first target, 2 on second, 3 on third, and 3 on last - Double the score on this stage for 100 possible points.

Total clean score would be 250 points.

 

[Lobo2087]

It is meant to resemble an across the course, course of fire and the differing classes of shooters such as a cmp match. While generally shot on bulls eyes the shillouette targets are used for appleseed shoots a lot

 

[YNOTAZ]

The file name "11x17-AQT-Drk (1)" indicates it should be printed on 11X17 which would be normally a "book-bound" style 8.5x11 to be folded.

I don't see a natural center for splitting it into 2 pages so maybe it is meant to be printed on 11x17 and used that way. That would increase the size of all targets.

 

[Doc]

I printed it on 8.5x11 and it worked

 

[QuietM4]

The target is intended to be printed on a 11"x17" piece of paper. Printing it on 8.5"x11" will shrink the targets.

 

[Jack Dupp]

The target is intended to be printed on a 11"x17" piece of paper. Printing it on 8.5"x11" will shrink the targets.

Well dang, I might be able to actually hit the target a few times in that case!

 

[smithers599]

And it's all rimfire, right?

 

[Lobo2087]

Yes

 

[YNOTAZ]

The target is intended to be printed on a 11"x17" piece of paper. Printing it on 8.5"x11" will shrink the targets.

Ultr-Rifleman

 

[Doc]

Went out and shot a 214 score today.

I still need more practice.

 

[hairygreek]

is this supposed to simulate the military (USMC at least) KD qualification course?

No elevation adjustments needed, which are a large part of KD shooting.

Looks similar but not identical. For anyone curious the USMC recently changed their qual course, its a lot more like action shooting now... which is more like combat shooting.

 

[QuangTri]

Looks similar but not identical. For anyone curious the USMC recently changed their qual course, its a lot more like action shooting now... which is more like combat shooting.

A good thing in my humble opinion, as long as long range shooting is not left out.
Afganistan proved that need.


The KD range was challenging, but good for the fundamentals. you could not score well without that.

Heck, I can barely get into a good prone these days.
Need a hoist to get me up from sitting or kneeling.
Getting old sucketh.

 

[azdover]

And it's all rimfire, right?

Seems like most people use 22LR due to cost, but I think you might be able to use centerfire also. In addition to their 25 meter qualification, their website mentions Known Distance shooting out to 400 yards and a pistol program too.

 

[BigNate]

Explain, please.
You print that page on an 8.5 x 11 piece of paper?
Use the top target for all shooting, and the little ones below are just stage descriptions? Or actual targets?
This is done with a rimfire rifle, right?

EDIT - Found a video of someone shooting it and explaining the scoring... [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7RG1HaTdAQ[/media]

My read on it is this...
1 ) Meant to be shot with a rimfire rifle (I'd presume semi-auto - but who knows if they care)
2 ) Print it on 11X17 paper (AKA tabloid)
3 ) Set it at 25 yards
4 ) Sight in on the grid target in the upper right
5 ) Shoot the test
a ) Each stage of shooting is separated by the dotted lines with Stage 1 the big silhouette at the top... ending with Stage 4 the four smallest targets on the bottom.
b ) Track time for each stage.
c) Check and mark targets between each stage. Mark the score for each stage on the target. Values are doubled for stage 4 as the targets are smaller. I presume that the number of "V" hits should be recorded separately as a tie-breaker...

My 2 cents... if someone knows this process well and I'm wrong I'd like to be corrected - I'm planning to get out in the next few weeks to give this a try.

 

[BigNate]

is this supposed to simulate the military (USMC at least) KD qualification course?

No elevation adjustments needed, which are a large part of KD shooting.

Looks similar but not identical. For anyone curious the USMC recently changed their qual course, its a lot more like action shooting now... which is more like combat shooting.

I saw a video on this a while ago - and was glad to see that they are evolving... The course that I had to shoot to qualify in the 80s was "good" but the new qual process looks to be something much more aligned with the way the weapon will be used when fighting - and that is a good thing. Not a lot of trench warfare going on out there any more...

 

[smithers599]

Explain, please.
You print that page on an 8.5 x 11 piece of paper?
Use the top target for all shooting, and the little ones below are just stage descriptions? Or actual targets?
This is done with a rimfire rifle, right?

EDIT - Found a video of someone shooting it and explaining the scoring...

My read on it is this...
1 ) Meant to be shot with a rimfire rifle (I'd presume semi-auto - but who knows if they care)
2 ) Print it on 11X17 paper (AKA tabloid)
3 ) Set it at 25 yards
4 ) Sight in on the grid target in the upper right
5 ) Shoot the test
a ) Each stage of shooting is separated by the dotted lines with Stage 1 the big silhouette at the top... ending with Stage 4 the four smallest targets on the bottom.
b ) Track time for each stage.
c) Check and mark targets between each stage. Mark the score for each stage on the target. Values are doubled for stage 4 as the targets are smaller. I presume that the number of "V" hits should be recorded separately as a tie-breaker...

My 2 cents... if someone knows this process well and I'm wrong I'd like to be corrected - I'm planning to get out in the next few weeks to give this a try.

Thanks. Very helpful
That feller shoots purdy good!