SHOOT AND BBQ ON HOLD

[knockonit]

Well on review of site today by some associates the BLM has decided to shut down the whole area to shooting, along with the ''supposed new for the public shooting ranges that our money was spent on, and that will probably never open. :evil:

SO AT THIS TIME WE WILL PUT ON HOLD, CONTACT IS BEING MADE TO DETERMINE IF WE CAN MOVE TO AN APPROVED SPOT, BUT..............AS WE ALL KNOW. UGH. OUR fabulous leaders at work

sorry, this was gonna be a hoot

working on a new location
Rj

 

[428cj]

Best of luck.

 

[Drmark]

There's always a turd in the punch bowl!

 

[kenpoprofessor]

Have a great, gun carryin', Kenpo day

Clyde

 

[YNOTAZ]

Just remember, their $1 million dollar range still isn't open, but they shut everything around it down "to protect the public"

No answer on how much is shut down or why.

 

[Doc]

What a bunch of f***ery.

I got a spot but it’s out past Globe.

That said there’s prob less fuzz there than around the lake.

 

[Suck My Glock]

Gee, golly,...Game & Fish not keeping their word? I'm so shocked,...not.

 

[Longhair1957]

I’ve lived here my whole life. (Other than army time) I’ve watched this game and fish just get more and more liberal. They are almost like a Biden administration. They seem to fvck everything they touch. ( like Ben Avery)

 

[YNOTAZ]

Here is what BLM grabbed:

 

[knockonit]

they had a long term plan at the meeting, hence the lack of discussion on future spots, they had already decided the plan, the meeting was just to meet basic community imput requirements, much like the bullshite in Nevada years ago, we met, we decided now GTFO

blm the biggest scam put on the American people, right next to liberals
Rj

 

[delta6]

they had a long term plan at the meeting, hence the lack of discussion on future spots, they had already decided the plan, the meeting was just to meet basic community imput requirements, much like the bullshite in Nevada years ago, we met, we decided now GTFO

blm the biggest scam put on the American people, right next to liberals
Rj

"Come on man!".. they are the government and they are there to help you :laughing-rolling:

 

[delta6]

they had a long term plan at the meeting, hence the lack of discussion on future spots, they had already decided the plan, the meeting was just to meet basic community imput requirements, much like the bullshite in Nevada years ago, we met, we decided now GTFO

blm the biggest scam put on the American people, right next to liberals
Rj

"Come on man!".. they are the government and they are there to help you :laughing-rolling:

We should ALL thank them for their hard work and salute them.....

 

[That Guy]

Most of the reasons that areas have been closed to shooting have ZERO to do with unelected Gubment bureaucrats. It has to do with an excessive influx of Homo sapiens to Arizona. How many people on this board without doing an internet search can tell me the following:
*What channel were “Wallace and Ladmo” on?
*On what street was “Shooters Haven” located?
*What put Bohm’s gun shop out of business?
“On what day and evening could civilians drive up use the shooting ranges at the AZ National Guard headquarters on McDowell Rd?
“In what high school in the 1970’s were the biggest gun shows in Phoenix held?”

The fact is most of you on this board can’t answer those questions and all you FNG’s who moved here from California, Illinois, New York and wherever else are not part of the problem-YOU ARE THE PROBLEM. :clap:
For years I used to go target shooting in the foothills of the McDowells where $10 million dollar homes are now. I used to shoot at a gravel pit near the Superstitions but then people built homes near there and that came to an end. I used to shoot on the south side of the Superstitions but then they built “Gold Canyon”. I used to shoot at Needle Rock and then zillions of idiots on ATV’s and picnic goofs whined about shooting and that was off limits. Then I shot south of Bartlett Road and Cave Creek but guess what? ATVers swarmed that area and whined about target shooting.

Y’all wanna solve the problem? Return to your daylight savings time states. Ain’t sectionalism a wonder thing? :dance:

PS-I don’t comments :dance: :dance: :dance:

 

[YNOTAZ]

Most of the reasons that areas have been closed to shooting have ZERO to do with unelected Gubment bureaucrats. It has to do with an excessive influx of Homo sapiens to Arizona. How many people on this board without doing an internet search can tell me the following:........

Some true some false. Arizona "State Trust land" was enabled in 1910, long before any of us arrived or were even born. The method AZSL was to be managed and sold was established in 1915, once again, long before any of us.

The area we are describing is Federal BLM land, not earmarked for sale to a developer or to be traded to an Indian tribe to build a Casino. The legislation for managing BLM land does not include sale to developers for housing.

While it may look like areas you are describing, it is vastly different in its purpose. It is happening now because:

- People believed the public hearings were really to get public input (bull-crap)
- BLM severely limited the distribution of the full number of acres they planned for and received, according to them, only 13 emails with comments.
-We are in a circle jerk, shooting at each other rather than complaining to BLM, local politicians, federal representatives, and anyone else that can make life miserable for the folks who did this so some scale-back might happen.

 

[oldslurrydog1]

Most of the reasons that areas have been closed to shooting have ZERO to do with unelected Gubment bureaucrats. It has to do with an excessive influx of Homo sapiens to Arizona. How many people on this board without doing an internet search can tell me the following:
*What channel were “Wallace and Ladmo” on?
*On what street was “Shooters Haven” located?
*What put Bohm’s gun shop out of business?
“On what day and evening could civilians drive up use the shooting ranges at the AZ National Guard headquarters on McDowell Rd?
“In what high school in the 1970’s were the biggest gun shows in Phoenix held?”

The fact is most of you on this board can’t answer those questions and all you FNG’s who moved here from California, Illinois, New York and wherever else are not part of the problem-YOU ARE THE PROBLEM. :clap:
For years I used to go target shooting in the foothills of the McDowells where $10 million dollar homes are now. I used to shoot at a gravel pit near the Superstitions but then people built homes near there and that came to an end. I used to shoot on the south side of the Superstitions but then they built “Gold Canyon”. I used to shoot at Needle Rock and then zillions of idiots on ATV’s and picnic goofs whined about shooting and that was off limits. Then I shot south of Bartlett Road and Cave Creek but guess what? ATVers swarmed that area and whined about target shooting.

Y’all wanna solve the problem? Return to your daylight savings time states. Ain’t sectionalism a wonder thing? :dance:

PS-I don’t comments :dance: :dance: :dance:

I was born and raised here in Phoenix and the only question I can answer is Walice and Ladmo was on Chanel 5. Ladmo bags were large grocery paper bags. They turned into small sandwich bags. Other than that I was young and dumb.

I came home from work to watch Walice and Ladmo on thier last telecast.

 

[Doc]

How many people on this board without doing an internet search can tell me the following:
*What channel were “Wallace and Ladmo” on?
*On what street was “Shooters Haven” located?
*What put Bohm’s gun shop out of business?
“On what day and evening could civilians drive up use the shooting ranges at the AZ National Guard headquarters on McDowell Rd?
“In what high school in the 1970’s were the biggest gun shows in Phoenix held?”

The fact is most of you on this board can’t answer those questions and all you FNG’s who moved here from California, Illinois, New York and wherever else are not part of the problem-YOU ARE THE PROBLEM.

I wasn’t even sperm back then you angry old bastard. :mrgreen:

 

[knockonit]

haha, lotsa history lost here in phoenix, i didn't get to the city much till i petitioned the old man to let me move here with my uncle(about 63 or 64 when i was about 14 or so), but am an Az boy growing up in BFE on a cattle and horse set up way down south east Az.
and one of my much younger sisters did get a ladmo bag when she was here visiting, was on the show i believe, and i have it somewhere stashed, i believe.
amazingly there was an old thread on the original site that had long time locals sharing sites and pictures of things gone by, shame it was lost.
Many things in Az have been lost, and most likely not to be seen again. Times they are a changing, and IMO not for the best
may the farce end soon, before it ends us.
RJ

 

[YNOTAZ]

Yep, the changes we see are not good and unfortunately many are coming from California. They still have around 40,000 per month leaving Cali with a large number coming here, then voting to make this "just like home".

 

[Longhair1957]

Great grandpa came here in 1873, grandpa was born here in 1890, dad was born here in 1929, I was born here in 1957. Dad’s moms family also have been here since the 1870’s. Moms family came here from OK during the dust bowl. They came here as migrant field pickers.I watched Wallace and ladino everyday on KPHO channel 5!

I remember space between towns, the space was always fields for miles. Now, you can’t tell when you leave one town for another.
We used to walk to the circle k carrying our .22 rifles. We had to lean them outside the store. We’d buy a box of ammo there at the circle k. Dump the ammo in our pockets, and walk out to the desert. I remember even taking my .22 to show and tell.

My grandkids are the 6th generation to live in the valley.

Yes, I have hated all the changes outsiders have made.

 

[Doc]

Great grandpa came here in 1873, grandpa was born here in 1890, dad was born here in 1929, I was born here in 1957. Dad’s moms family also have been here since the 1870’s. Moms family came here from OK during the dust bowl. They came here as migrant field pickers.I watched Wallace and ladino everyday on KPHO channel 5!

I remember space between towns, the space was always fields for miles. Now, you can’t tell when you leave one town for another.
We used to walk to the circle k carrying our .22 rifles. We had to lean them outside the store. We’d buy a box of ammo there at the circle k. Dump the ammo in our pockets, and walk out to the desert. I remember even taking my .22 to show and tell.

My grandkids are the 6th generation to live in the valley.

Yes, I have hated all the changes outsiders have made.

One day I’ll be telling stories of buying things with cash, being able to buy CASES of ammo, my smelly gasoline car, going to the store to buy things.

Oh and having intercourse with people and not robots.

Live it up gents!