Red dot suggestions please

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I am looking to buy my first red dot for a FN 509 compact. I’m proficient on three dot iron sights and would like to learn on red dot now. Any suggestions on which red dot would go well with this firearm and for a new red dot shooter? Thank you.
 
Why do you want to use a RDS? Personally I would stay with irons, if I could: Nothing to fail, no batteries to replace, no extra cost, no extra bulk, no issues with astigmatism or colors, no delicate lens that needs to be protected and cleaned, no new learning curve. I use them because I can’t see the irons and the target at the same time. Once I started shooting RDS I wanted/needed all my guns to have them. It is just enough of a different shooting style, for me, that it’s one or the other. Switching between them slowes me down and impacts my accuracy. if my eye sight was good I wouldn’t switch. Now I have pistols that are basically obsolete unless I upgrade them. Really takes the shine off of buying a new pistol to.

I would say try them out first. Look at 2 vs 6 Moa dots vs combo reticle. If it’s about just speed then 6 moa works great. For fast and better accuracy use the combo reticle ( 65moa circle with 2 moa dot) If you are looking for bullseyes the 2 moa. If this is a range toy then I wouldn’t worry about back up irons. If not definitely get irons that cowitness. I had a battery cap that flew off, my fault but I would have bet money and potentially my life it was good to go. Had mount screws that were locktighted loosen up and lost my POA instantly ; one round on target the next completely off the target. Lost a mounting screw that Loosened up and just disappeared while shooting. I’m not saying I forgot to use locktight on it but will admit it’s a possibility. The other 3 stayed tight and I never lost zero so a win! Had a newish battery that drained down while shooting until I couldn’t see the dot in the daylight. Technically it didn’t fail, but not very useful. Don’t buy the cheap Amazon batteries.
 
https://www.youtube.com/user/SageDynamics
Boat loads of RDS content. Reviews and torture tests. If you want Made in the USA the RMR is the only option you have. If you don't care Holosun seem to do well on the tests. There's also that new fangled Aimpoint ACRO. You can always get suppressor height backup sights and Knight's Armament makes flip up pistol sites specifically for use with RDS. Not all suppressor height sites will clear the base of an RDS so try to find an example of someone using the combo you choose to go with or go to a local place to get an idea of how well your particular combo will work.
 
I am sold on RDS on handguns. Took me quite a while to "give into" the trend but now there is no denying how great they are. I have had a number of models but the only legit option for a carry pistol is the Trijicon RMR. Personally the Type 2 RM06 3.25 Adjustable LED is the one for me. It's like the Red Sauce commercial, I put that s*&t on everything.
 
The dot itself would be a matter of personal preference. If you're gonna go RMR then go with the Type 2 like mentioned. For a new red dot shooter, the new holosun that has the large ring you can only see when the reticle is misaligned, might be a good idea. I forget what the model # is.
 
AZ1182 said:
AZGlock21 said:
I am sold on RDS on handguns. Took me quite a while to "give into" the trend but now there is no denying how great they are. I have had a number of models but the only legit option for a carry pistol is the Trijicon RMR. Personally the Type 2 RM06 3.25 Adjustable LED is the one for me. It's like the Red Sauce commercial, I put that s*&t on everything.
There are no absolutes and for some people they are not great at all. That's a fact actually but as always, your mileage may vary.

I'm one of those people that find red dots to be useless on my handguns. I know from personal experiences. Life goes on. I'm very okay with that.

Cool story bro. You do you.
 
Had RMR's on carbines and one on a work pistol but never had really had the chance to dive into a red dot on a carry pistol before. Took part in a class today (amazing conditions lol) and not only learned a TON about the pros/cons, but with the instruction and support from the staff I'm hooked. I shot my new Holosun from concealed and even though it took a little more time initially to "find it", once I got a more consistent presentation down the hits came much easier. Whole class had a wide variety of options, everyone got better and faster.

Bottom line; if your fundamentals are solid the dot is a value add in a variety of situations. If your fundamentals suck the dot will tell you and force you to make them better in order to really leverage the advantages of the tool.
 
The new hotness is the ACSS Vulcan from primary arms and Holosun. It has a massive outer ring that is invisible is you are on target but will show you if you are off target. Deals with the issue of finding the dot on handguns.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_dU7xqmBq0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtyqesTJv2U&t=177s
 

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Fewer still that are actually made in the U.S. Lets not forget that aimpoint is Swedish and no one seems to have a problem with them.

Chinese or not, holosun is affordable and they are actually innovating. Too many American companies have become the apple of the gun world. Small incremental upgrades, never taking a risk, letting smaller companies test the market first.
 
Holy shit why does every discussion here turn into a shitshow??? Would be nice to stay on the topic of Fn reddots instead of some other BS. Fine to post where something is made as that pertains to subject but god damn no reason to go into a debate about why you dont want to buy it. Ok fine dont buy the thing. Keep your mouth shut and let others discuss the topic at hand and make up their own mind if they should buy it or not.

Its nice to see other options out there and who knows maybe someone has a safe full of USA optics but wants a cheap beater range gun to kick in the dirt and they want a cheaper alternative.

Rant off, back to redots... :angry-banghead:
 
OK, ignoring the reading of the tablets handed down by God;

We have beaten the crap out of Holosun red dots on several carbines, enough so that I added one to a pistol. Due to shortage of ammo and reloading components I haven’t put a lot of round through it but it has performed flawlessly so far.

In the carbine world I’ve learned that as my eyes age, optics, scopes, red dots, and magnifiers become much more attractive and I expect the same benefit where pistols are concerned.

Look for value in the red dot you choose, spending more for a name and associated bragging rights doesn’t help your shooting one bit.
 
I also have a Trijicon gen2 RMR.
I bought it because a friend of mine (with more $$ to experiment) has used many different sights and likes RMR best. I have eyes that are increasingly difficult to focus this is a great solution. It takes practice to regain speed but I see a measurable improvement in my groups at 20-25 yds.
For carbines, I go to Aimpoint . .or anything besides Chinese . . .
 
I decided to try out a rds on a handgun because I just can't see night sights very well any more. I went with an RMR based on the general consensus of being the most bombproof. I have a Type 1 RM06 and haven't experienced any flickering.
 
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