Public Safety Fee???

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Pale Rider

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Just got my registration renewal on my truck and it was higher than last year, WTF?. After examining the f***ing thing I see a new $32 fee called "public safety fee". Another tax/fee quietly slipped in there. Isn't that special? It's probably so DPS can give raises to everyone at our expense. I just never ends, and you just watch that fee will be $100 in a few years.
 
I just renewed also...I have an older truck and the "Public Safety Fee" was double what my registration fee for my truck.
 
QuietM4 said:
I just renewed also...I have an older truck and the "Public Safety Fee" was double what my registration fee for my truck.

I'm in exactly the same position as you except I've got two older trucks that will both have their fees double. In the meantime, the DPS is replacing all their guns because they're defective rather than having them fixed for free by the manufacturers and some of the DPS employees have two take home vehicles off and on instead of just one.

Really annoying. :x
 
It would be one thing if they used the money for what they say they will.
The problem is it always seems tp go elsewhere.
Maybe their slush fund is getting low.
 
Our fearless leaders under the copper dome are already proposing doing away with it, seems the phone was ringing off the hook with all the complaints about it, or somebody’s conscience got the best of them when they slipped this one through last election. They are going to find a different way to help fund DPS. Got that from the office of state rep. Leo Biasiucci
 
xerts1191 said:
Our fearless leaders under the copper dome are already proposing doing away with it, seems the phone was ringing off the hook with all the complaints about it, or somebody’s conscience got the best of them when they slipped this one through last election. They are going to find a different way to help fund DPS. Got that from the office of state rep. Leo Biasiucci

Let's hope. I'm not as bad as some, but with 4 cars, F this "tax"..
 
The one thing I love about my temporary state of residence is the registration fee on my 50000.00 Ford expedition and inspection fees are 75 for registration and 25 for inspection. Coincidentally the registration fee and inspection fee on my daughters 96 beater ford tbird is 75 for registration and 25 for inspection. That includes safety and emissions if needed. That's a bit of a misnomer and emissions are done like all newer cars by plugging in to the OBD port.

Oh and we have no state income tax either so arguments saying such high fees offset income tax are mute.
 
Yeah, that $32 dollar fee (if government calls it a "fee" then they can claim its not a tax) is supposed to go to upgrade the DPS fleet. Of and by itself I guess that's not so bad if the money actually goes to the DPS instead of the general fund.

Almost 10 years ago they did this huge bump in vehicle registrations in my native Colorado which was just one of the many reasons for leaving that state that was ruined by the libtards. My old 4runner went from $24 to over $78 in a year. And the money from that "fee" just went into the general fund and citizens really saw no direct benefit from it.
 
I was reading a while back that California voters have passed an initiative to increase taxes to fix the roads.

Four times they've passed it (4) and guess how many times it's gone into the General Fund?

Four (4) times.

We need to dump this. DPS doesn't need this when they're throwing away a bunch of money to buy new guns when they could get the defective ones fixed for free. There's no way a gun manufacturer wouldn't do it for free as it's a design defect.
 
Crippledtrigger said:
The one thing I love about my temporary state of residence is the registration fee on my 50000.00 Ford expedition and inspection fees are 75 for registration and 25 for inspection. Coincidentally the registration fee and inspection fee on my daughters 96 beater ford tbird is 75 for registration and 25 for inspection. That includes safety and emissions if needed. That's a bit of a misnomer and emissions are done like all newer cars by plugging in to the OBD port.

Oh and we have no state income tax either so arguments saying such high fees offset income tax are mute.
It's "moot" and your property taxes in TX are how much? A State has to get it's operating funds one way or the other.

When we were looking at buying property in TX one of the biggest things that killed it for us were the HIGH property taxes. As an example of those taxes with two properties we looked at, both 3bed/2ba on 10 acres and roughly the same price of $225K...
House in Montana = $900
House in Texas = $5400

In AZ we pay just over $500 for our 1452sqft house on 36 acres.
 
Flash said:
I was reading a while back that California voters have passed an initiative to increase taxes to fix the roads.

Four times they've passed it (4) and guess how many times it's gone into the General Fund?

Four (4) times.

We need to dump this. DPS doesn't need this when they're throwing away a bunch of money to buy new guns when they could get the defective ones fixed for free. There's no way a gun manufacturer wouldn't do it for free as it's a design defect.
Yes they say the only way the funds can get diverted into the GF is due to a fiscal emergency. Well guess what, CA is in a continual fiscal emergency. Another reason we left for AZ.

As to fixing the pistols I don't think there is a way to do that without a total redesign and building new pistols. Something FN recognizes since they are even dropping the model from production. DPS went cheap to save a little money and now it is biting them and AZ taxpayers in the ass.

A lawsuit might be the way to recover some of the costs from FN as the pistol is obviously a defective and unsafe design.
 
Sig had a similar problem with their (I believe) P320 and they fixed it. Can't see why FN can't but I suppose it's possible.
 
I wouldn't mind the extra fee/tax so much if I was certain it would actually end up in the DPS budget, but I know it won't. It will get diverted to the General Fund, just like every other fee/tax increase that was sold as a going to education, fire/ems, etc.
 
Gotta pay for that Red for Ed. So, why not call it Red and Blue for Ed fee(tax)? I have 7 personal vehicles and 1 motorcycle(3 others in storage that aren’t registered) that I have current registration on.

Luckily, none have to go thru emissions since they are all registered at my sons house up in Prescott.

If Arizona was even a little smart, they would legalize marijuana and enjoy the tax windfall from it.
 
Rock Hardson said:
Gotta pay for that Red for Ed. So, why not call it Red and Blue for Ed fee(tax)? I have 7 personal vehicles and 1 motorcycle(3 others in storage that aren’t registered) that I have current registration on.

Luckily, none have to go thru emissions since they are all registered at my sons house up in Prescott.

If Arizona was even a little smart, they would legalize marijuana and enjoy the tax windfall from it.
Except as CO has shown there isn't as much of a windfall as people expected. Buyers don't want to pay the high prices the legal dealers have to charge on taxed weed, so they continue to buy from the same street dealers they used to. Plus crime and welfare costs have gone up as unemployed stoners flocked to CO.
 
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