Parents of Michigan shooter charged

[AZ_Five56]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/michigan-school-shooting-suspects-parents-charged-with-involuntary-manslaughter/ar-AARrbz1

It sounds like there were some serious warning signs. The parents had a meeting at the school the day of the shooting regarding some troubling notes the son was writing in class. The parents didn't keep the gun secure, and now they're charged with involuntary manslaughter.

 

[mtptwo]

Kinda a BS charge. There are no safe storage laws in MI.

 

[smithers599]

There is no "general" duty to lock up guns (or anything else), but it is negligent to give access to any dangerous thing when you "know or should have known" that the thing would be misused. For example, do you have a duty to lock up your car keys so your teenager does not use your car without permission? No. But if your teenager says "Can I have the car keys so I can go run over people at the Christmas parade?" then you shouldn't say "Sure, here you go." If the evidence shows that this particular little creep had said that he wanted to shoot people at school, and the parents knew about it (or should have known about it), then yeah, they should have locked up the gun.

The problem is that the politicians will try to parlay this specific duty into a general duty, and get laws passed creating a general duty to lock up guns -- unloaded and padlocked and the ammunition locked in a separate location with the combination kept in a hermetically sealed mayonnaise jar on Funk and Wagnall's front porch. That's their end game.

 

[Old Jeff H]

Funk and Wagnalls. Haven't heard that name in a while!

 

[Doc]

Lol. You trust what the media is saying?

So to recap:
16 yo kids can go to the doctor and parents are NOT allowed to get copies of the records or know if the kid is on drugs or pregnant…..can be tried as adults and even thumb their nose at parents and call CPS on them….but the parents are responsible.


People need to wake the füćk up !

 

[knockonit]

Lol. You trust what the media is saying?

So to recap:
16 yo kids can go to the doctor and parents are NOT allowed to get copies of the records or know if the kid is on drugs or pregnant…..can be tried as adults and even thumb their nose at parents and call CPS on them….but the parents are responsible.


People need to wake the füćk up !

well said

 

[aroyobob]

Parents found
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10274257/Fugitive-parents-Michigan-shooter-Ethan-Crumbley-ARRESTED.html

 

[delta6]

Lol. You trust what the media is saying?

So to recap:
16 yo kids can go to the doctor and parents are NOT allowed to get copies of the records or know if the kid is on drugs or pregnant…..can be tried as adults and even thumb their nose at parents and call CPS on them….but the parents are responsible.


People need to wake the füćk up !

well said

+1
Do we now have to hid the car keys, alcohol, matches???
Shiat, remind me to put a lock on the refrigerator.....

 

[mtptwo]

Running from the law looks really bad.

Still, I think this could be a horrible president. At what point is it no longer the parent's fault? Example, a 16 year old kid takes the car, without the parent's knowing, and the kid get into a car wreck and kill the other driver. The parents allowed the kid access to the keys. Would the parents be negligence?

Personally, I think the parents are being charged because the kid used a gun. If the kid took a knife to school and stabbed another kid to death, I doubt the parents would be charged.

 

[AZ_Five56]

They're really trying to stick it to the parents. I read one article where they were talking about how they wouldn't ordinarily charge the parents, but that all of the circumstances stacked up and looked really bad. They may be terrible parents if they raised a monster that could do that, but I'm not sure that makes them criminals.

 

[EarlCordova]

Well the parents probably have some money that the parents of the shot kids can go after in civil court.

 

[delta6]

Running from the law looks really bad.....

Hiding from the public maybe... would make sense. In this current environment, I wouldn't feel safe at home.

 

[knockonit]

so why does everyone believe what is supposed to be news media, the bull shiat machine on its adenda

 

[Doc]

I think the DA is making it personal.

Hope the parents fight.


Does the DA have qualified immunity?

 

[Suck My Glock]

Despite claims that they were en route to surrender, they were apprehended 500 yards from Canadian border.

 

[Jack Dupp]

I'd have bailed if I were them also. The justice system has totally jumped the shark.

 

[Flash]

OTOH, Michigan does have laws on the books about this sort of thing, as do around 40 states.

https://www.grabellaw.com/section-750-145-michigan-legislature.html

Section 750.145 - Michigan Legislature
750.145 Minor; contributing to neglect or delinquency
In the state of Michigan, contributing to neglect or delinquency is a misdemeanor offense. Any adult who contributes to delinquent activities by those who are younger than age 17 may be held responsible. For example, a parent or other adult may host a party where teenage drinking is allowed for those in attendance who are under the age of 17. In essence, this may be considered neglect as allowing underage individuals to participate in activity that could potentially lead to delinquency in the future is illegal. Adults who encourage or allow illegal behavior in those under age 17, or who place minors in a situation, which exposes them to behavior that is illegal, may face criminal misdemeanor charges.

 

[Dauph]

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1466885216828600320.html?utm_source=subscriptions_mailer&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=daily

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/584245-mother-texted-dont-do-it-to-suspected-michigan-school-shooter-prosecutor

Mother texted 'don't do it' to suspected Michigan school shooter: prosecutor

 

[smithers599]

Despite claims that they were en route to surrender, they were apprehended 500 yards from Canadian border.

 

[XJThrottle]

If they are charging the kid as an adult, how can they go after the parents?

Seems like the DA would have to pick one or the other.