Outta-stater shut DOWN from pistol buy

[pneuby]

I was at a dealer yesterday and witnessed the right action/s taken.

Guy was trying to buy a collectible used pistol. Presented an Az. I.D.(only). Clerk checks with owner, who reiterates story-policy that one MUST have an AZ CCW if it's not a D.L., and simply an I.D.

Clerk offers to HOLD pistol for him to obtain a DL that afternoon, or tomorrow to complete the deal. The doofus responds, "No, that's okay..I gotta head back tomorrow..." Followed by the clerk finishing the thought "..to where you LIVE???". Doofus realizes he's been SNAGGED, and shuffled on out the door.

Musta been a Commifornian, else he woulda offered up the ideal of shipping to his local FFL.

 

[shooter444]

Yup, been there,... turned down two sales to guys being very defensive and adamantly claiming that a AZ ID was sufficient to prove residency, and that they had bought previously with just a Az, state issued, ID.

What I found most interesting,... was how BOTH potential buyers had the same excuse of not owning a car, and therefore had no use for an Az DL.

I never got around to asking, but, I always wondered how they were going to meet up for the transaction!

:confusion-confused:

 

[PK90]

You can get an AZ CCW as a nonresident also, so where is that protection?

 

[shooter444]

I believe ,... " OUT OF STATE Az CWP's",... state they are OUT OF STATE / NONRESIDENT concealed weapons permits.

 

[Doc Holliday]

What I found most interesting,... was how BOTH potential buyers had the same excuse of not owning a car, and therefore had no use for an Az DL.

No car....my ass....they just didn't want you to see the Cali plates on it, that's all.

 

[Doc]

How do you get an AZ ID if you are a CA resident? Seems fishy as heck.

CA people are getting desperate I suppose.

 

[shooter444]

The last I heard, AZ ID's can be issued by the Az Motor Vehicle Dept.,... without any other ID, as a walk in service for anyone.

But, it is something I HEARD,... so, take it with a grain of salt.

 

[redj]

I am not sure if it is the same as an AZ ID card but to get an AZ travel ID you need three things.


Birth Certificate
Social Security Administration (SSA) Card
Documents from TWO DIFFERENT ENTITIES (business, organization, tribal or government agency) containing both the applicant’s name and current residential address.

 

[Doc Holliday]

The last I heard, AZ ID's can be issued by the Az Motor Vehicle Dept.,... without any other ID, as a walk in service for anyone.

But, it is something I HEARD,... so, take it with a grain of salt.

But then anyone could just walk in and say 'I'm _______, give me an ID'...

 

[shooter444]

The last I heard, AZ ID's can be issued by the Az Motor Vehicle Dept.,... without any other ID, as a walk in service for anyone.

But, it is something I HEARD,... so, take it with a grain of salt.

But then anyone could just walk in and say 'I'm _______, give me an ID'...

CORRECT,... with a complete resume of false information,... even an illegal can get one.

edit,... just checked and found that a Social Security Number is the only official ID needed. Which are illegally available to anyone. The rest of the required info is just the normal personal info,... name, age, address, sex, etc., etc.,... which illegals falsely present, everyday.

https://apps.azdot.gov/mvd/Application/ApplicationForm.aspx

 

[shooter444]

https://azdot.gov/motor-vehicles/driver-services/driver-license-information/identification-id-card

Identification (ID) Card


The identification card is available to all ages (including infants). Persons 65 or older can obtain the card free of charge. In addition, those receiving Federal Supplemental Security Income disability checks may qualify for a free card based on eligibility.

Identification cards for children and adults are available at any MVD office or Authorized Third Party Driver License provider.

Begin your application online.

 

[redj]

The last I heard, AZ ID's can be issued by the Az Motor Vehicle Dept.,... without any other ID, as a walk in service for anyone.

But, it is something I HEARD,... so, take it with a grain of salt.

But then anyone could just walk in and say 'I'm _______, give me an ID'...

CORRECT,... with a complete resume of false information,... even an illegal can get one.

edit,... just checked and found that a Social Security Number is the only official ID needed. Which are illegally available to anyone. The rest of the required info is just the normal personal info,... name, age, address, sex, etc., etc.,... which illegals falsely present, everyday.

https://apps.azdot.gov/mvd/Application/ApplicationForm.aspx

You need to recheck your check.
The link you posted is for an application.
You can do the application on line but you must go in to an MVD office to actually get one.
When you go in to get the ID you need to bring with you

Birth Certificate
Social Security Administration (SSA) Card
Documents from TWO DIFFERENT ENTITIES (business, organization, tribal or government agency) containing both the applicant’s name and current residential address.

 

[Flash]

I'm going to clear up a misconception for you guys.

They state they want a Birth Certificate. If you get a passport or passport card, they say the same thing, but they won't accept a Birth Certificate when you show up.

They want what they call a "state certified birth certificate" which is actually a COLB or certificate of live birth. They won't accept a birth certificate. I know because I tried to use one and argued the point. I lost of course and had to produce a certified COLB.

 

[shooter444]

Flash, are you talking about getting a ,... "ID CARD",...?
Below is a copy of the APPLICATION for an ID CARD,...I don't see any mention of needing a birth certificate, or a COLB,... only a SS number?


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[glow=red]Application
Red asterisk indicates a required field[/glow] * You are required by ARS 28-3158 (D)(5), 28-3165(F) and 42 USC 405 (c) (2)(C) to provide your Social Security Number. It will be used to verify your identity and to comply with the federal and state child support enforcement laws. It will not be used as your driver license or identification card number.
Social Security Number:
* Date of Birth:
mm/dd/yyyy
Submit
Applicant First Name:
Middle:
* Last:
Suffix:
* Resident Street Address:
* City:
* State: * Zip:
Mailing Address:
(if different from above)
City:
State: Zip:
* Which address do you want to appear on your license? Street Mailing
Note: Travel Driver License/Identification Cards may only have the residence address appear on your license.
* Sex: Male Female * Weight:
lbs * Height: ft. in.
* Eye Color: * Hair Color:
Contact Number:
Yes No Have you ever had a DL/ID issued in Arizona?


Arizona Department of Transportation

 

[Flash]

No, I'm talking about the "travel ID" mentioned earlier in the thread. AKA REAL ID.

 

[shooter444]

No, I'm talking about the "travel ID" mentioned earlier in the thread. AKA REAL ID.

Hmmm,... I just went through the whole thread and can't find any mention of " TRAVEL ID".

The OP only stated ,... "Guy was trying to buy a collectible used pistol. [glow=red]Presented an Az. I.D.(only)."[/glow]

I thought he was talking about an Az ID Card,... my mistake.

 

[Doc Holliday]

Won't give you an AZ ID Card if you already have an AZ DL.

 

[Flash]

No, I'm talking about the "travel ID" mentioned earlier in the thread. AKA REAL ID.

Hmmm,... I just went through the whole thread and can't find any mention of " TRAVEL ID".

The OP only stated ,... "Guy was trying to buy a collectible used pistol. [glow=red]Presented an Az. I.D.(only)."[/glow]

I thought he was talking about an Az ID Card,... my mistake.

Sorry, 444, but I somehow lost track of this thread so I'll answer now. Here's where I got the "Travel ID" in this thread:

I am not sure if it is the same as an AZ ID card but to get an AZ travel ID you need three things.


Birth Certificate
Social Security Administration (SSA) Card
Documents from TWO DIFFERENT ENTITIES (business, organization, tribal or government agency) containing both the applicant’s name and current residential address.

 

[shooter444]

Thanks Flash.... now I know why I missed it.

 

[Blue109]

Imagine if our right to keep and bear arms wasnt infringed....