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Seven Nashville officers on administrative assignment amid investigation into leaked Covenant shooter's writings

https://fox17.com/news/local/nashville-mass-shooting-covenant-school-audrey-hale-middle-tennessee-police-seven-metro-officers-on-administrative-assignment-amid-investigation-into-leaked-covenant-shooters-writings#
 
[highlight=yellow]Federal judge orders FBI to release manifesto of Nashville Christian school trans shooter[/highlight]


https://mxmnews.com/article/5144df0c-ebca-4c8d-ab99-4708d5142eed?federal-judge-orders-fbi-to-release-manifesto-of-nashville-christian-school-trans-shooter
 
https://tennesseestar.com/justice/report-covenant-school-shooter-told-therapist-she-fantasized-about-killing-her-family/mgiffin/2024/05/31/

Covenant School Shooter Told Therapist She Fantasized About Killing Her Family

Covenant School shooter Audrey Elizabeth Hale reportedly told her therapist that she was fantasizing about killing her family and committing a school shooting, according to a report by 99.7 WTN radio host Brian Wilson. [highlight=yellow]The therapist reportedly did not report these findings to authorities.[/highlight]

99.7 WTN host Brian Wilson:
The ongoing investigation apparently focuses on the shooter’s therapist. Metro Nashville Police Department is remaining silent on this, but sources familiar with the investigation confirm that search warrants were run on the home and office of the therapist in an effort to obtain notes of the therapy sessions with the Covenant School shooter. One source says detectives have evidence that the shooter told the therapist about fantasies that involved, among other things, killing her parents and carrying out a school shooting of some kind.

Tennessee Code Annotated (TCA) 33-3-206 mandates that if a “service recipient has communicated to a mental health professional or behavior analyst an actual threat of bodily harm against a clearly identified victim” and “has determined or reasonably should have determined that the service recipient has the apparent ability to commit such an act and is likely to carry out the threat unless prevented from doing so,” the mental health professional “shall take reasonable care to predict, warn of, or take precautions to protect the identified victim from the service recipient’s violent behavior.”

Additionally, TCA 24-1-207 gives protection to mental health professionals who must warn others but may need to communicate sensitive information about their patients.

Wilson: This is where it gets very interesting. Because if the therapist, whose name to me is unknown at this time, has information of this nature and had shared it with law enforcement officials, it is entirely possible the Covenant School shootings could have been prevented. Now that is a sobering thought. A sobering thought that six people killed by the shooter might well be alive today if the therapist had warned police about the nature of the conversations that-that they were having with the shooter.

Wilson continued and asked why Glenn Funk, the district attorney for Davidson County, had not brought a case against the therapist.

Retired Metro Nashville Police Department Lieutenant Garet Davidson first claimed to Wilson on the air Thursday that police had searched the home and office of a “practitioner” relevant to the Covenant School shooter investigation. He said he did not know why the findings from the search were not “already presented to DA Funk to go ahead and see about an indictment on that individual in question.”

MNPD declined to comment to The Tennessee Star when asked about Davidson’s claims.

Wilson: So if indeed the therapist had this information or had fantasies and discussed in the therapy sessions, wanting to kill parents or to carry out a school shooting, that should have been instantly transmitted to police, and police could have then perhaps intervened in this particular case and stopped this tragedy from occurring. But why after running search warrants and getting the notes have we not seen any movement on this is unclear.

Wilson later transitioned into discussing the possibility of a prosecution of the therapist in question.

Wilson: But-but it’s becoming increasingly clear in talking with my sources that Metro Nashville Police Department has developed information with regard to this therapist and the conversations that therapist had with the shooter that are very eye-opening and could potentially lead to prosecution of the said therapist because the said therapists apparently did not go forward and make any kind of warning to police that could have prevented the shooting from happening in the very first place. I know this is a lot to absorb, but-but that is where I believe the investigation is right now, and it is baffling to me as to why this has not gone forward…

Wilson: And again, we have said time and time again that having the information from the manifestos, the diaries of the shooter being made public would be helpful and helping to come up with some kind of reason and some kind of answer to how we avoid these things from going forward and the first place. And I-and I think that, you know, if tougher laws are needed with regard to when a therapist must report such things could be looked at, it would be helpful to know exactly what’s in those documents. It would be helpful to know exactly what the Metro Nashville Police Department has developed or has not developed. But the fact that we are, that we have this cone of silence around the investigation, which is largely being done because of the many, many lawsuits that have been filed in the many, many lawyers that are involved in trying to shut down the release of that information, I think that the public has a right to know exactly where this investigation stands, and if my information is incorrect, and come back and tell me so, and I’ll be glad to make the correction, but I don’t believe I’m wrong. And I believe my sources are correct on this. And I think there are real questions that need to be answered by the Metro Nashville Police Department about where this investigation is, why it hasn’t gone any further forward, and I think there are answers that need to come from District Attorney Glenn Funk on this matter as well.
 
I have mixed thoughts on this. It's a slippery slope from mandatory reporting for "I think I want to kill someone" to mandatory reporting for "I'm depressed and I own guns" to mandatory red flag seizure for "patient checked a box on an intake form that they're having a bad day"
 
Abbey said:
I have mixed thoughts on this. It's a slippery slope from mandatory reporting for "I think I want to kill someone" to mandatory reporting for "I'm depressed and I own guns" to mandatory red flag seizure for "patient checked a box on an intake form that they're having a bad day"

I agree with you. But my point in bringing this up is to highlight that there already is a biased multi-tier system on such things. If some white male (or probably ANY male) had made the exact same statements,...no doubt in my mind he would have been reported on. But this very progressive, illuminated intellectual was so obviously incapable of anything except love and peace it was ludicrous to imagine any real risk of violence was actually possible. It was just fantasy after all. Well, so was changing your gender not too long ago, so,....
 
https://tennesseestar.com/news/covenant-killer-audrey-hale-used-federal-pell-grant-funds-to-buy-guns-she-used-in-march-2023-mass-shooting-at-christian-school/mgiffin/2024/06/07/

Covenant Killer Audrey Hale Used Federal Pell Grant Funds to Buy Guns She Used in March 2023 Mass Shooting at Christian School
 
Here's the issue... the assessment of intent by a therapist is highly subjective and situational and we don't want to do anything that encourages them to either over-report (both damaging 2A rights, damaging their relationship with their patients, and reducing the likelihood that folks with guns will seek help) - or underreport (putting lives at risk). We should encourage them to act in a manner focused on protecting the life of their patients and society - reporting when they believe that there is a serious threat of violence from their patient. We should not penalize practitioners for doing what they believe, in their best judgement, is right for their patients.

Do I want a therapist to report to the police if their patient makes what they believe is a credible threat of violence against themselves or others? Yes... I want them to be able to do that - and I would hope that any therapist, whether a gun grabber, or a raging pro-2A activist, would do so if they honestly believed that lives were at stake.

Now the flip side of the coin... Let's pretend that a therapist reads the medical records of their new patient, one that they just took on after his previous mental health provider of 30 years retired, and in reading the records they identify that the person has guns... and that 20 years ago when they found their spouse in bed with someone else they told their old therapist that "I thought about shooting them both... but decided they weren't worth it." They just admitted to having a homicidal fantasy. Do we penalize this therapist for not going to the police to report that their patient had a homicidal fantasy? I would hope that even the most anti-2A person out there would not say that this person should be reported to the police.

It's highly subjective and people are going to be wrong from time to time.

If there were evidence that the therapist for the nut-job in Tennessee legitimately believed that their patient was homicidal and they did nothing - or worse yet they encouraged the act (let's say they are a trans activist themselves and they are on camera encouraging their nutty patient to go kill white Christian conservative homophobes' ) - then yes - hook them up... but short of that - they need to be left alone. They are suffering plenty with the knowledge that their patient killed two adults and four children.

Do I support looking at situations like the Nashville situation clinically and gathering information that can be shared with practitioners to help them better care for their patients - and better recognize signs of impending crisis - absolutely - but that is not the same as putting elevated reporting requirements in place.

My 2 cents...
 
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/09/breaking-all-90-pages-nashville-transgender-shooter-audrey/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=breaking-all-90-pages-nashville-transgender-shooter-audrey

https://x.com/gatewaypundit/status/1831000500394745918?s=46
 
https://x.com/mrandyngo/status/1909342516417380363


The writings provide clear statements Hale was an autistic leftist trans violent extremist, having extreme hatred for whites, America and cisgender society.

“I’d like to dispose my vagina.”

“Female pronouns make me feel like I wanna die.”

“I hate being in a woman’s body. Need to die.”

“Kill all the white kids. Kill my own race.”

“Every white person who lived and died, I hate you all”

“I have to kill so I can be remembered in the most horrific way possible that no one can ever forget.”

Hale’s rants reflect many common views among the far-left. They have been sympathetic to Hale, honoring her as a victim days after the mass killing.


https://www.ablechild.org/2025/04/06/psychiatric-abuse-experimentation-parents-ask-nmpd-to-cover-it-up-and-they-do/

Audrey Hale is the poster child of modern psychiatric treatment. Twenty years in therapy, countless drug cocktails and Hale only got more drugged. From the little information that was provided, Hale never got better. Hale got a different therapist, a different drug cocktail and a different diagnosis, but she never got better. In fact, based on the little information that was provided about Hale’s mental health treatment, the only thing that changed was that Hale’s anger escalated and she got more drugged. And [highlight=yellow]Hale even told her therapist that she had suicidal ideation and homicidal fantasies. [/highlight]

Unbelievably, after Hale had advised her therapist that she was suicidal and homicidal, she purchased her first AR-style rifle, and the report advises that Hale’s mother “objected to the rifle” but “her father had no problem with Hale having the firearm provided she take classes to learn how to use the rifle safely and responsibly.” These are the parental decisions being made about a gun-buying daughter that has been treated for several mental illness for twenty years and they are the people in control of the investigative evidence? At what point does law enforcement consider that Hale’s parents may share some of the responsibility of Hale’s deadly actions?

Even more bizarre, [highlight=yellow]in 2021 Hale “let it slip to her therapist” that she owned a rifle. Did the therapist notify law enforcement that Hale suffered from major mental illness, was on a mind-altering drug cocktail and had had suicidal and homicidal ideation and fantasies?[/highlight] Nope. Didn’t happen. Again, at what point are therapists responsible for their failure to protect the public from harm?
 
I am surprised more was released, I know when they released the manifesto there were lawsuits and threats from the police department and other groups against making it public.

Paints a very real picture of a mentally ill kid.
 
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