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Not that it will affect things all that much but Guns and Ammo has an article trying to explain the NRA's decision to drop its annual meetings and exhibits. At the end of the article there's a poll where you can vote if you still support the NRA and Wayne "new suits" LaPierre, Marion the cat lady and the rest of the entrenched croonies. The voting is not going as well as the crooks at the NRA had hoped it would.
Please vote!

https://www.gunsandammo.com/editorial/why-nra-cancels-2021-annual-meetings-exhibits/451358
 
Done! I would love to support them under new leadership, but I feel the organization's name has been dragged through the mud for far too long.
 
All of these organizations are the same - preserve, defend, protect, blah blah blah. They want to condition you into thinking the status quo is a win. When is the last time anything has been done at the federal level to actually advance the interests of gun owners? Very few meaningful laws have been passed at the state level either. When is someone going to shift the focus of one of these organizations to taking back what’s been lost by the passive defense? The answer is never, because both sides have successfully enriched themselves by doing nothing and understand that as long as they do nothing, the dollars will keep rolling in.
 
Very few meaningful laws at the State level? Your ignorance level is truly astounding.

https://azcdl.org/accomplishments-overview/

Constitutional Carry – Restoration of the right of law-abiding adults to carry openly or discreetly without first seeking written permission from the government via a “permit .”
Prohibiting state and local government officials from confiscating lawfully held firearms during a state of emergency.
Strengthened state preemption of firearm and knife laws.
Strengthened protection of the lawful use of firearms, air gun and archery equipment on private lands.
Requiring state and local government buildings or events that prohibit weapons to provide temporary and secure storage that is readily accessible on entry and permits immediate retrieval upon exit.
Prohibiting the courts from ordering the forfeiture of a firearm when a person is convicted of carrying in a state or local building where weapons are banned.
Prohibiting political subdivisions (counties, cities, towns, etc.) from requiring or maintaining de facto registration records of firearms, or their owners, related to the temporary storage process
Prohibiting state and local governments from maintaining identifying information of a person who owns, possesses, purchases, sells or transfers a firearm, except in the course of a law enforcement investigation.
Preventing private or public employers, property owners, and others from banning firearms in a locked vehicle.
Prohibiting firearms seized, abandoned or surrendered from being scrapped. They must be sold to authorized dealers.
Repealing the prohibition on carrying a firearm in a game refuge.
Allow possession of otherwise “prohibited” weapon (i.e., for self-defense) while hunting.
Expanding the places where a weapon can be carried without a CCW permit in a vehicle to include a “map pocket.” (superseded by Constitutional Carry law).
Prohibiting unlawfully requiring a person to use or subject themselves to “electronic firearms tracking technology,” a component of “smart gun” technology that limits the operation of a firearm as well as tracking its location and logging its use.
Prohibiting state and local governments from requiring the search of any federal or state databases as a requirement for transferring personal property, such as your firearm.
Clarifying that state and local governments cannot regulate the possession of weapons by employees or contractors in or on their privately owned property or vehicles.
Bankruptcy exemption for personal firearms.
Repeal of decades old ban on the possession of nunchakus.

Passage of the Crime Victims Protection Act of 2012, that amends the Arizona Constitution to protect victims from being sued by their attackers.
Restoration (in 2006) of “innocent until proven guilty” in self-defense situations that was taken away in 1997.
Strengthening the elements of justification for the use of force.
Castle Doctrine strengthened.
Clarification that a person has no duty to retreat in any place they have a right to be.
Establishment of a justification for the defensive display of a firearm.
Adding the presumption, in certain civil actions, that a victim acted reasonably when using physical or deadly force.

Lengthening the permit period from 4 years to 5 years.
Reduction of the initial 16 hour training requirement to 8 hours.
Elimination of the fingerprint and training requirements for CCW permit renewals.
Expansion of training experiences that qualify for a CCW permit.
Expanding permit eligibility to 19 and 20 year olds with military service.
Universal recognition, by Arizona, of concealed weapon/handgun permits held by residents of other states.
Preventing law enforcement from confiscating a firearm from someone with a suspended permit if it is otherwise lawfully possessed.
Reduction of the penalty for not having your CCW permit in your possession, when required, from a Class 2 Misdemeanor to a Petty Offense.
Passage of Constitutional Carry in 2010, making the permit optional for carrying discreetly in Arizona.

Allow possession of otherwise “prohibited” weapon (i.e., for self-defense) while hunting.
Expansion of the definition of Hunter Harassment.
Use of sound suppressors allowed when hunting.
Magazine capacity cannot be limited by Game and Fish Commission.
Active duty military personnel stationed in Arizona may obtain hunting permits.
Hunter Harassment added to the list of crimes that can suspend or revoke a hunting license.
Restrictions removed on type of firearm a wildlife guide may carry,
 
Flash said:
Very few meaningful laws at the State level? Your ignorance level is truly astounding.

https://azcdl.org/accomplishments-overview/

Constitutional Carry – Restoration of the right of law-abiding adults to carry openly or discreetly without first seeking written permission from the government via a “permit .”
Prohibiting state and local government officials from confiscating lawfully held firearms during a state of emergency.
Strengthened state preemption of firearm and knife laws.
Strengthened protection of the lawful use of firearms, air gun and archery equipment on private lands.
Requiring state and local government buildings or events that prohibit weapons to provide temporary and secure storage that is readily accessible on entry and permits immediate retrieval upon exit.
Prohibiting the courts from ordering the forfeiture of a firearm when a person is convicted of carrying in a state or local building where weapons are banned.
Prohibiting political subdivisions (counties, cities, towns, etc.) from requiring or maintaining de facto registration records of firearms, or their owners, related to the temporary storage process
Prohibiting state and local governments from maintaining identifying information of a person who owns, possesses, purchases, sells or transfers a firearm, except in the course of a law enforcement investigation.
Preventing private or public employers, property owners, and others from banning firearms in a locked vehicle.
Prohibiting firearms seized, abandoned or surrendered from being scrapped. They must be sold to authorized dealers.
Repealing the prohibition on carrying a firearm in a game refuge.
Allow possession of otherwise “prohibited” weapon (i.e., for self-defense) while hunting.
Expanding the places where a weapon can be carried without a CCW permit in a vehicle to include a “map pocket.” (superseded by Constitutional Carry law).
Prohibiting unlawfully requiring a person to use or subject themselves to “electronic firearms tracking technology,” a component of “smart gun” technology that limits the operation of a firearm as well as tracking its location and logging its use.
Prohibiting state and local governments from requiring the search of any federal or state databases as a requirement for transferring personal property, such as your firearm.
Clarifying that state and local governments cannot regulate the possession of weapons by employees or contractors in or on their privately owned property or vehicles.
Bankruptcy exemption for personal firearms.
Repeal of decades old ban on the possession of nunchakus.

Passage of the Crime Victims Protection Act of 2012, that amends the Arizona Constitution to protect victims from being sued by their attackers.
Restoration (in 2006) of “innocent until proven guilty” in self-defense situations that was taken away in 1997.
Strengthening the elements of justification for the use of force.
Castle Doctrine strengthened.
Clarification that a person has no duty to retreat in any place they have a right to be.
Establishment of a justification for the defensive display of a firearm.
Adding the presumption, in certain civil actions, that a victim acted reasonably when using physical or deadly force.

Lengthening the permit period from 4 years to 5 years.
Reduction of the initial 16 hour training requirement to 8 hours.
Elimination of the fingerprint and training requirements for CCW permit renewals.
Expansion of training experiences that qualify for a CCW permit.
Expanding permit eligibility to 19 and 20 year olds with military service.
Universal recognition, by Arizona, of concealed weapon/handgun permits held by residents of other states.
Preventing law enforcement from confiscating a firearm from someone with a suspended permit if it is otherwise lawfully possessed.
Reduction of the penalty for not having your CCW permit in your possession, when required, from a Class 2 Misdemeanor to a Petty Offense.
Passage of Constitutional Carry in 2010, making the permit optional for carrying discreetly in Arizona.

Allow possession of otherwise “prohibited” weapon (i.e., for self-defense) while hunting.
Expansion of the definition of Hunter Harassment.
Use of sound suppressors allowed when hunting.
Magazine capacity cannot be limited by Game and Fish Commission.
Active duty military personnel stationed in Arizona may obtain hunting permits.
Hunter Harassment added to the list of crimes that can suspend or revoke a hunting license.
Restrictions removed on type of firearm a wildlife guide may carry,

What’s astounding is that you think more than a couple of those are actually meaningful. Good thing we’re protected from all of the “smart gun” technology out there. Hunter harassment was a huge win. Map pocket carry… huuuugggeeee.
 
As of 8/31/21, 7:15 p.m.

Do you support the NRA?
Yes, completely. 11%
Yes, but I will not financially contribute until Wayne LaPierre resigns or is removed. 52%
No, I have lost trust in the organization. 37%
Total Votes: 3723
 
smb said:
Done! I would love to support them under new leadership, but I feel the organization's name has been dragged through the mud for far too long.
I feel the same way. Leadership needs to change. :angry-cussingblack:
 
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