Glock model 20 10mm to stop the charging grizzly bear

[428cj]

U.S.A. –-(Ammoland.com)- On 19 September 2018, Jimmy Cox used his Glock model 20 10mm to stop the charging grizzly bear pictured, at 10 feet. The incident leading to the dramatic events occurred the previous evening.

https://www.ammoland.com/2019/10/alaskans-stop-grizzly-bear-charge-with-glock-10mm-on-elmendorf-richardson/#axzz62IBbKsiA

 

[Crippledtrigger]

10mm impressive power is what's driving its resurgence. The 40 cal slight difference over 9 mm is what's making it a dying caliber.

If it can take a Cape buffalo a grizz is no sweat. Provided proper ammo and placement.

ETA dying doesnt mean dead.

And this is in stark contrast to the 9mm failure at stopping a grizz recently. It did make it break off its mauling but didnt stop it from continuing to stalk the hunters. Those rounds were put into the ars end of the grizz. Worst possible location for stopping/killing.

 

[Solar_Empire]

10mm impressive power is what's driving its resurgence. The 40 cal slight difference over 9 mm is what's making it a dying caliber.

If it can take a Cape buffalo a grizz is no sweat. Provided proper ammo and placement.

ETA dying doesnt mean dead.

And this is in stark contrast to the 9mm failure at stopping a grizz recently. It did make it break off its mauling but didnt stop it from continuing to stalk the hunters. Those rounds were put into the ars end of the grizz. Worst possible location for stopping/killing.

Maybe, but the load he supposedly used pretty much equates to a 44 special...a 200 gr bullet at 1041 fps. Like always, shot placement was key here. It's even stated that the first shot hit the lung and deflected to strike the spine, but the second shot either pierced the brain or severed the spinal cord for the kill.

Not directed at anyone, but I've always kind of laughed at people who don't like 40 because it's snappy but supposedly love 10mm. If a 40 is snappy a 10 is your worst nightmare (properly loaded). I love my .40s and 10s equally. Hell, I just like guns.

 

[xerts1191]

Wow

 

[Viperdisorder]

Love my 10mm, I have some doubletap that is the real deal, had to get a better spring for my gun to run it

 

[tunnug]

My Glock 20 is my preferred sidearm when I'm out either camping or hunting, besides the ballistics I like that I'll have 12rds in the gun with extra mags on me, I regularly shoot it to stay on top of felt recoil and so forth, always been a fan of the 10mm.

 

[Gunslinger55]

Carried it in Alaska many times. Try firing a 44 cassul full power ouch!10mm with 220 hard cast at like 1250 pretty decent power and controllable.plus faster reloads. That said I’d say a 44 mag 629 May be a better overall deal but the 10mm a decent compromise and more bullets. Hopefully you got a rifle or a 12 gauge with slugs

 

[Bullzaye]

My Glock 20 is my preferred sidearm when I'm out either camping or hunting, besides the ballistics I like that I'll have 12rds in the gun with extra mags on me, I regularly shoot it to stay on top of felt recoil and so forth, always been a fan of the 10mm.

A Glock 20 *should* hold 15 rounds in its standard mag.

 

[laserguy]

I always wanted a long slide 1911 in 10mm as a hunting handgun but the cost was always to much for my budget.

The Glock G40 is kind of cool but I dont want the cutout for optics on the slide.

 

[laserguy]

It does come with a plate, so its not that big of a deal but I would prefer it if they offered a version without the cut out at all.

I dont know how easy it is to tune the accuracy of a glock, I would want it to be a real tack driver

 

[Boriqua]

Not a Glock but ... did someone say 10mm!!

This sucker is a true tack driver and feels like a puff cake even with
https://www.underwoodammo.com/collections/handgun-ammo/products/10mm-auto-180-grain-xtp-jacketed-hollow-point?variant=18785724956729

Its my wandering the desert gun ..

 

[laserguy]

Not a Glock but ... did someone say 10mm!!

This sucker is a true tack driver and feels like a puff cake even with
https://www.underwoodammo.com/collections/handgun-ammo/products/10mm-auto-180-grain-xtp-jacketed-hollow-point?variant=18785724956729

Its my wandering the desert gun ..

That thing is awesome.

 

[Gunslinger55]

KKM barrel. Especially if you shoot lead or reload. Lighter trigger. Voila great shooter.

That said my dan Wesson silverback is a tack driver

 

[Boriqua]

As far as poly 10mm's .. I had the glock 20 gen 4 and I had the Springfield XDM. The XDM was (FOR ME) a much nicer shooter in about every way.

Sure people scream about after market support but there is a healthy after market for the springfield offerings but .. It didn't need it. Where I spent a couple of months and a few hundred dollars on top of purchase price to like the glock .. the XDM came out of the box already with a great barrel with wonderful Chamber support the glock didn't have, A stiffer frame where firing .... the glock felt like a wet noodle with that round and nice sights. There was really nothing to do but put on the backstrap that you were comfortable with.

I am not anti glock or pro glock .. I refuse to hate or love them based on internet chatter. I had both guns and objectively .. I had a better experience and shot better naturally with the XDM.

Having said all that .. My Match Champion is all that and a bag of chips. Oh my goodness .. I love shooting that gun!!

I like Revovlers .. A lot!

Sure you get a bunch more rounds in the XDM or glock but .. even Bear guy in the OP only used 3 rounds ..that leaves me three for anything else!

 

[Suck My Glock]

Just a reminder that ANY handgun round is a very poor stopper of bears. Heck, even a rifle sometimes won't get it done.

[highlight=yellow]Bill Pinnell, an Alaskan brown bear guide on Kodiak Island finds the skull of an unguided bear hunter who disappeared years prior. The bones of the hunter and a bear were both found with a broken gun and a fired cartridge in the chamber. Both bear and hunter had killed each other[/highlight]

 

[smithers599]

You don't need no steenkin' 10mm! .38 Special is plenty!

https://www.ammoland.com/2022/02/38-special-effective-against-wyoming-grizzly-bear/#axzz7oEZDpaQ5

 

[Boriqua]

You don't need no steenkin' 10mm! .38 Special is plenty!

https://www.ammoland.com/2022/02/38-special-effective-against-wyoming-grizzly-bear/#axzz7oEZDpaQ5

Wild story. I wonder how they recovered the brass at the scene. Guess Hunter 1 reloaded just in case.

 

[delta6]

Interesting video...not definitive, but plenty to think about.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wW4UPeZkGyM&t=2s

 

[Boriqua]

Interesting video...not definitive, but plenty to think about.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wW4UPeZkGyM&t=2s

Cool video and I loved his set up but I just wish he would have given us the information on what ammo he was using. when I had my 10's there was some factory target ammo I purchased that was pretty soft. I actually loaded my own target rounds with a little more Umph.

 

[Suck My Glock]

You don't need no steenkin' 10mm! .38 Special is plenty!

https://www.ammoland.com/2022/02/38-special-effective-against-wyoming-grizzly-bear/#axzz7oEZDpaQ5

As always, shot placement is paramount. The old adage; a .22 in the eye is more effective than a .44 in the toe.


I carry a G20 in bear country because I can hit with it in controlled rapidity, whether at bears or people. My load I carry in such places is the old hard-to find 200 grain Black Talons. Not because I ever believed any of that hype about them from 30 years ago, but because its a reliable expander that penetrates deeply, in either animal. On the street with only 2-legged predators, I carry 135 grain CorBons, which absolutely detonate after 3 inches.

If our bears here in AZ were grizzlys, I might feel compelled to look at a .44mag or .45LC revolver.

A pilot friend who prospects in Alaska during the summer just simply carries a 1911 Lightweight Commander with plain old 230 grain FMJ. For him, it's a nice lightweight popper that isn't as heavy as a massive revolver, and he has carried and shot that thing for decades and it is part of him. He can mag-dump it into the A-zone on an IPSC target in under 3 seconds at 15 yards. He figures if 8 round of .45acp ball in 3 seconds doesn't get it done,...he deserves to get eaten.