lone_wolf
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Any word on fire restrictions for shooting in the Desert? I know it normally happens around this time every year.
Fire Restrictions
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Rock Hardson
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No fire restrictions state wide
JaiYa
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On some BLM land, at least in my experience, you could shoot in the summer and no restrictions. But, is shooting *really* going to start a fire?
I think the chances are almost non existent.
I think the chances are almost non existent.JaiYa said:On some BLM land, at least in my experience, you could shoot in the summer and no restrictions. But, is shooting *really* going to start a fire?
Steel core ammo is starting fires in dry seasons so save it for UN troops.
JaiYa said:On some BLM land, at least in my experience, you could shoot in the summer and no restrictions. But, is shooting *really* going to start a fire?
I once saw a round start a fire in the expansion joint of the floor in an indoor shooting range. Pretty impressive blaze for a while.
Harrier
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at a group shoot back east in 2001 there was a hillside fire we had to put out but then there were several full autos blasting tracers too...
lead & copper really doesn't spark much.
lead & copper really doesn't spark much.
Bluewave said:
That sounds about right.
There sure has been a lot of fire crews driving around Tonto National Forest the last 2 or 3 weeks.
But there's always some nitwit out there that will decide to shoot "Firedragon" shotgun loads like what happened the last fire a Sycamore Creek...JaiYa said:On some BLM land, at least in my experience, you could shoot in the summer and no restrictions. But, is shooting *really* going to start a fire?
omegaman said:
I have personally witnessed 855 ball start a fire. Never would have believed it if I didn't see it with my own eyes. That was a few years ago on Table Mesa, guys shooting next to me were shooting it and they started a fire. It was dry early that year and they shut it down a couple days later. Hit rocks with AP ammo and sparks can and do fly, if it's dry it can start a fire.
On one pre-monsoon, heat of the summer day several years ago I went to a dry cattletank that I had shot at for years to try out a new to me Big 5 special M48 Mauser. Using some Turkish milsurp (which I believe had a mild steel core), I saw a spark that suddenly/somehow had a small bush going that was about 2 feet from my paper target.... I ran over and stomped it out, and left with a new understanding as to how it CAN happen.
Seen it with tracers, 303 Brit, .30-06 and 8mm Mauser.
All it needs is a spark and dry kindling.
And then you are dragging the shovels out of the back of the pickup and spending a couple of hours stomping out fires cuz your friend won't listen and was shooting at some rocks to see his ammo spark.
All it needs is a spark and dry kindling.
And then you are dragging the shovels out of the back of the pickup and spending a couple of hours stomping out fires cuz your friend won't listen and was shooting at some rocks to see his ammo spark.
https://firerestrictions.us/az/ is a good resource to use.
Still a few areas of BLM district which are open, was just out at my 'spot' last week and it was still open for shooting. I would call the field office of the district you want to shoot in before you go (just to be sure the website is not lagging).
Still a few areas of BLM district which are open, was just out at my 'spot' last week and it was still open for shooting. I would call the field office of the district you want to shoot in before you go (just to be sure the website is not lagging).
[glow=red]Lower Sonoran Field Office, Arizona BLM at Stage I
from 2019 Jun 20 midnight until rescinded[/glow]
The following acts are prohibited on all lands administered by the Bureau of Land Management in the following counties: Maricopa and Yavapai, Arizona. This restriction includes the Lower Sonoran Field Office and Sonoran Desert National Monument.
Stage 1:
The following acts are prohibited until further notice:
1. Building, maintaining, attending, or using a fire, campfire, charcoal, coal, or wood stove. Campfires and charcoal use are permitted in developed recreation sites or improved sites where agency-built fire rings or grills are provided. Developed or improved recreation sites listed in the order.
2. Smoking, except within an enclosed vehicle or a developed or improved recreation site or while stopped in an area at least six feet in diameter that is barren or cleared of all flammable materials.
3. Welding or the use of any torch or metal cutting or grinding implement.
4. Discharging a firearm, air rifle, exploding targets or gas gun except while engaged in a lawful hunt pursuant to state, federal or tribal laws and regulations.
Fireworks, tracer ammunition, and exploding targets are always prohibited year-round on federal lands. Fire Prevention Order # AZ910-2015-001
from 2019 Jun 20 midnight until rescinded[/glow]
The following acts are prohibited on all lands administered by the Bureau of Land Management in the following counties: Maricopa and Yavapai, Arizona. This restriction includes the Lower Sonoran Field Office and Sonoran Desert National Monument.
Stage 1:
The following acts are prohibited until further notice:
1. Building, maintaining, attending, or using a fire, campfire, charcoal, coal, or wood stove. Campfires and charcoal use are permitted in developed recreation sites or improved sites where agency-built fire rings or grills are provided. Developed or improved recreation sites listed in the order.
2. Smoking, except within an enclosed vehicle or a developed or improved recreation site or while stopped in an area at least six feet in diameter that is barren or cleared of all flammable materials.
3. Welding or the use of any torch or metal cutting or grinding implement.
4. Discharging a firearm, air rifle, exploding targets or gas gun except while engaged in a lawful hunt pursuant to state, federal or tribal laws and regulations.
Fireworks, tracer ammunition, and exploding targets are always prohibited year-round on federal lands. Fire Prevention Order # AZ910-2015-001
