Don't bring a hockey puck to a gun fight

[Dogslayer]

https://www.abc15.com/news/national/school-faculty-trained-to-use-hockey-pucks-to-thwart-shooters
This is about as smart as the school that "armed" their teachers with a
bucket of rocks to use against attackers.

 

[smithers599]

It would be fun to set up a steel silhouette target at, say, 20 feet, and invite teachers to try to hit it -- anywhere -- with a thrown hockey puck.

 

[kptaylor]

Stupid. Imagine the lawsuit that school will get hit with if anyone there actually does get shot! "But I threw my puck!"

 

[smithers599]

<"The first thing that came to my mind was a hockey puck. I was a hockey coach for my kids growing up. I remember getting hit in the head with a hockey puck once and it hurt," said Oakland University Police Chief Mark Gordon.>

Not only does it hurt, but it can cause brain damage.

 

[jrleen]

Don Rickles would have something clever to add to this.....

 

[knockonit]

Not only does it hurt, but it can cause brain damage.


and perhaps the idiot that came up with this idea is damaged in the brain, or just plain fricken stupid

 

[Delfuego]

Don Rickles would have something clever to add to this.....

Am I the only one that got this :clap:

 

[Intel6]

They got this from the ALiCE (Alert/Lockdown/inform/Counter/Evacuate) Training Institute active shooter training. It is an interesting tactic and when used in a specific circumstance it can be effective. I am a certified Instructor and one of the things in the training is active shooter drills with airsoft guns. When we did this drill with rubber balls it was very effective.

Basically the idea is if you are a classroom of students trapped (Lockdown) in a classroom and are unable to evacuate they don't sit there and wait to get shot. Part of Lockdown is to barricade and fortify the door and be prepared to Counter if the shooter makes it past your barricade. Say you are a class of 25x 8 year olds and two adults, what can the kids do? If every kid picks up two of anything they can throw and they all throw them at the shooter when he enters the room he has 50 things flying through the air at him at one time. Since he wasn't expecting it, when it happens it is a physical and mental disruption which provides the opening for prepared individuals to counter his attack.

We did this with us students acing as the trapped class and one of the other class members as the shooter. The shooter was just told to go in this hallway (we trained in an unused school) and try to get into the classroom and "shoot" everyone. So the "shooter" was not prepared for any resistance because we had not talked about this yet. They passed out rubber balls to us "students" and when the dude (A young LE officer) came in the class to massacre us with his airsoft gun he got blasted with rubber balls, was totally disoriented and two of the class members were able to essentially tackle and disarm him. In our case the guy was so disoriented he never fired a shot before getting jumped.

So while this sounds strange to many people it is a viable strategy to use when you have a classroom of students in a gun free zone facing an active shooter.

 

[knockonit]

lol

 

[shooter444]

"[glow=red]So, while this may sound strange to many people, this really does seem like a viable strategy to use when you have a classroom of stupid socialist snowflake students and One World Agenda teachers, that aren't worth the amount of air they consume.
[/glow]"


Darwin's Law of Evolution by Natural Selection at its best,... there is nothing quite like sitting back and watching the political mentally defective,... committing suicide!

 

[smithers599]

They got this from the ALiCE (Alert/Lockdown/inform/Counter/Evacuate) Training Institute active shooter training. It is an interesting tactic and when used in a specific circumstance it can be effective. I am a certified Instructor and one of the things in the training is active shooter drills with airsoft guns. When we did this drill with rubber balls it was very effective.

Basically the idea is if you are a classroom of students trapped (Lockdown) in a classroom and are unable to evacuate they don't sit there and wait to get shot. Part of Lockdown is to barricade and fortify the door and be prepared to Counter if the shooter makes it past your barricade. Say you are a class of 25x 8 year olds and two adults, what can the kids do? If every kid picks up two of anything they can throw and they all throw them at the shooter when he enters the room he has 50 things flying through the air at him at one time. Since he wasn't expecting it, when it happens it is a physical and mental disruption which provides the opening for prepared individuals to counter his attack.

We did this with us students acing as the trapped class and one of the other class members as the shooter. The shooter was just told to go in this hallway (we trained in an unused school) and try to get into the classroom and "shoot" everyone. So the "shooter" was not prepared for any resistance because we had not talked about this yet. They passed out rubber balls to us "students" and when the dude (A young LE officer) came in the class to massacre us with his airsoft gun he got blasted with rubber balls, was totally disoriented and two of the class members were able to essentially tackle and disarm him. In our case the guy was so disoriented he never fired a shot before getting jumped.

So while this sounds strange to many people it is a viable strategy to use when you have a classroom of students in a gun free zone facing an active shooter.

Throwing things indeed is a viable strategy -- as a prelude to fighting back. Fighting is almost always preferable to the government-preferred options of running and hiding. However, in most cases, the advocates of throwing things specifically encourage people not to fight. Their expectation is that the thrown objects will either incapacitate the BG ("Hockey pucks hurt!"), or convince him to leave. More likely, the BG will get pissed off and kill the object-throwers first.
Even in a "throw, then immediately counter-attack" scenario, a hockey puck is a lousy choice, because it is hard to throw. Rocks are better; golf balls even better (and cheaper than hockey pucks).

However, the best object to throw is a chunk of lead with a copper coating, weighing between 115 and 230 grains, at a velocity between 850 and 1100 feet per second.