Big Brother controlling my car? No, thanks!

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Starting in 2026, Congress has mandated that all new vehicles sold in the United States must have devices that monitor the driver for "impairment" and then, if the nanny state determines that you are "impaired" disable the vehicle. What could go wrong?

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There are now fact-checking websites that are designed to counter other fact-checking websites who likewise want to pretend to have the market cornered on factual information. In the end, the vast majority boils down to contradictory talking points and trying to shape a desired narrative. Nobody really knows what the legislation will bring into effect because the relevant decisions haven't been made yet by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA).

But what is certain is that the provisions included within the trillion-dollar Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act will eventually result in some form of driver monitoring. That's likely to come by either an ignition interlocking device that would require drivers to utilize a breathalyzer before setting off, or some kind of comprehensive driver monitoring system that uses audio-visual cues to determine the driver's present status.

What could go wrong here? I mean we trust government bureaucracies like the NHTSA, don't we? :roll: It is for our own good isn't it?

I suppose the conclusion is to be wary of everything you're told. Everyone exclaiming that there will soon be ways of remotely disabling your vehicle is absolutely living in the land of conjecture. But so are the groups asserting that there's no cause for concern before the NHTSA decides how to implement the vague regulatory language outlined in the Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act.

Maybe things would have gone more smoothly if this wasn't buried in an expansive, 1,039-page piece of legislation nobody had time to read before voting. I certainly would have felt better about it if it had been part of a document focused entirely on automotive safety regulations and given time for critical assessments. But it wasn't and that has upset people who are now trying to express concerns that are being strategically dismissed on the grounds that they're not qualified to even discuss the topic.

Yes, I trust the government. Completely. :doh:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/tech...t-automotive-kill-switch-mandates/ar-AA1jyyx2
 
Doc said:
Used Toyota value goes up again.
Even some Toyotas after a certain date have a cell link installed that can be remotely activated. Tied into the car electronics for emergency use of course. Same as the GM Northstar system.

If your Toyota had the "SOS" option when new it can located and controlled to an unknown degree remotely by Toyota (and the feds).

My 2012 4Runner had this so I disconnected the rooftop GPS antenna. No location for you.
 
QuangTri said:
Doc said:
Used Toyota value goes up again.
Even some Toyotas after a certain date have a cell link installed that can be remotely activated. Tied into the car electronics for emergency use of course. Same as the GM Northstar system.

If your Toyota had the "SOS" option when new it can located and controlled to an unknown degree remotely by Toyota (and the feds).

My 2012 4Runner had this so I disconnected the rooftop GPS antenna. No location for you.

I think mine has a tape deck. I think I’m 2/3 on my way to Taliban Toyota
 
Wish I could remember what I read about when the "locator" feature was fed mandated. Notice how few newer cars do not have a very visible telematics low profile antenna on the roof. The cell function ties into your car electronics bus, the GPS provides location.

I just get a little red light that says no cell connection. GPS nav screen works fine, different antenna for that.

Throws no error codes about being disconnected.
 
I have heard this reported on infowars a few years ago... they even mentioned vehicles "talking to other vehicles" on the road... they really are ahead of the news. And I can't blame people labelling them conspircay theorists because the lame stream media have not reported about it yet. Hence it's juay a conspiracy :roll:
 
vvalter_vvhite said:
I have heard this reported on infowars a few years ago... they even mentioned vehicles "talking to other vehicles" on the road... they really are ahead of the news. And I can't blame people labelling them conspircay theorists because the lame stream media have not reported about it yet. Hence it's juay a conspiracy :roll:

This was added to Covid legislation years ago.

They never let a tragedy go to waste.
 
Doc said:
vvalter_vvhite said:
I have heard this reported on infowars a few years ago... they even mentioned vehicles "talking to other vehicles" on the road... they really are ahead of the news. And I can't blame people labelling them conspircay theorists because the lame stream media have not reported about it yet. Hence it's juay a conspiracy :roll:

This was added to Covid legislation years ago.

They never let a tragedy go to waste.
Some cars have had it for around 20 years, like the GM thing they bragged could unlock your car if you lost your keys inside.

Stepmom had in in a Buick around 2005. If they can unlock your doors, they can kill the engine.
 
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