Half Cocked
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Ward Carroll takes a look at possible Trump action against the Mexican drug cartels.
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Are we going to war against the Mexican drug cartels?
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kenpoprofessor
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God we can hope so, they've been in control of the borders since the 70's. I think a few drone strikes on critical targets should slow them down. Meanwhile, the DEA and CIA are all running covert ops inside the cartels, we already know that. Besides, what's Mexico going to do about, write a strongly worded objection letter to stop? There ain't shiat they can do, and they know it, they're powerless. They'll have to accept it and their citizens back, period.
Have a great, gun carryin', Kenpo day
Clyde
Have a great, gun carryin', Kenpo day
Clyde
Suck My Glock
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Why do we insist on still fighting a war we lost decades ago?
Who actually believes squeezing the balloon down there won't result in the problem simply diverting elsewhere?
Why has everybody forgotten the law of supply and demand isn't an economic law, but one of physics?
Who doesn't understand such an offensive down there would actually be merely as cover for taking covert action designed for "shaping" electoral trends and results? (Which could well be argued has been necessary for decades, but let's not lie to ourselves what the actual aims are. Call a spade a spade.)
Who actually believes squeezing the balloon down there won't result in the problem simply diverting elsewhere?
Why has everybody forgotten the law of supply and demand isn't an economic law, but one of physics?
Who doesn't understand such an offensive down there would actually be merely as cover for taking covert action designed for "shaping" electoral trends and results? (Which could well be argued has been necessary for decades, but let's not lie to ourselves what the actual aims are. Call a spade a spade.)
In a sense you are right. Just like alcohol, if there is a demand there will be a supply.
The major difference is Fentanyl. Fentanyl does not require a plant base so there are no needs for large poppy fields that can be spotted by satellite or air. All that is needed are the precursors, controlled but not illegal on their own, and ventilation.
As we've learned it is mixed with many common drugs for an additional experience. A couple grains too heavy a mixture and you're dead.
We still drive cars even fire prone EVs but nobody drives a Ford Pinto.
The major difference is Fentanyl. Fentanyl does not require a plant base so there are no needs for large poppy fields that can be spotted by satellite or air. All that is needed are the precursors, controlled but not illegal on their own, and ventilation.
As we've learned it is mixed with many common drugs for an additional experience. A couple grains too heavy a mixture and you're dead.
We still drive cars even fire prone EVs but nobody drives a Ford Pinto.
Suck My Glock
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In my opinion, pursuing this would be Trump's worst self-inflicted injury.
He would be giving the left the kind of rally point they need/want to anchor upon. They would use it as an excuse to sabotage any and all military bills and fundings.
All of which is totally separate from the fact it can't work in the first place and is doomed to fail. There's plenty of Chinese networks in Canada perfectly willing to transfer the Fentanyl pipeline there.
He would be giving the left the kind of rally point they need/want to anchor upon. They would use it as an excuse to sabotage any and all military bills and fundings.
All of which is totally separate from the fact it can't work in the first place and is doomed to fail. There's plenty of Chinese networks in Canada perfectly willing to transfer the Fentanyl pipeline there.
kenpoprofessor
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Suck My Glock said:
Damn, you'd almost think you had an investment in that gig from what you write. :shock:
Yes, it'll work, a few well placed explosives will change a lot of minds in Mexico. And, so what if they get it into Canada? We'll see how violent they can get when the cartels are out of the picture. Besides, I'd rather see the stuff up there where there's a better chance of cooperation with the locals, cuz right now down south, they're all in it up to their necks in Cartel money.
Have a great, gun carryin', Kenpo day
Clyde
Creeker
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Suck My Glock said:
Exactly. The “war on drugs” waged for the last 40 years has done nothing but enrich the cartels, waste billions, if not trillions, of dollars of taxpayer money, and create countless new victims of those looking to fuel their habit.
You cannot eliminate demand by restricting supply. It doesn’t work and that’s been proven time and time again. Cry fentanyl all you want, but the same shit was said about crack back in the 90’s.
Cartels = Taliban.
Can't beat the US in a set-piece battle, but they can cut off lots of heads and blow up lots of Starbucks.
Can't beat the US in a set-piece battle, but they can cut off lots of heads and blow up lots of Starbucks.
Creeker
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YNOTAZ said:
I never said it was the same, you decrepit twit. I said what was said about it (i.e., the fear mongering) is the same.
General Curtis LeMay said "Don't do anything half-heartedly". He also said something like he could bomb North Vietnam back to the stone age. So, it may start in 15 days. Get ready.
kenpoprofessor
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https://www.youtube.com/shorts/asJe7pAUrgc
Here ya go.
Have a great, gun carryin', Kenpo day
Clyde
Here ya go.
Have a great, gun carryin', Kenpo day
Clyde
Creeker
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YNOTAZ said:
Funny you call something plain stupid in a sentence that isn’t comprehensible. Rest up, take your meds, brush off the dementia, and try again.
kenpoprofessor said:
Doubtful Mexicans have been doing horror level shit to each other for ...well since the Aztecs. Still cutting off heads and worshipping idols down there. Unless you're turning the whole place to glass you're well placed bombs are probably nicer than the hand grenades thrown into crowded places, busses full of school children disappearing, and watching dismembered bodies hanging off over passes or in a cartel snuff film.
Half Cocked
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Cartel members shooting across the border at Border Patrol agents is nothing new. Since we have failed to respond to these attacks decisively the cartels continue to act with impunity. They just need a few FAFO moments to change this behavior.
Suck My Glock
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Half Cocked said:
Absolutely. Despite my aversion to trying to wage a campaign down south, don't let anyone make the mistake of interpreting my position on this. Although BP is primarily a LEO organization, they uniquely also defend the physical integrity of the nation. Open fire on them like this, and it is (in my opinion) entirely proportionate and proper to return fire in sufficient severity to lay waste to whomever dares to. In fact, there is a moral imperative to do so.
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