AR-15 Bolts. Which ones are good?

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I was thinking of upgrading/having an extra bolt or two just in case. There is a ton of options out there. I don't need the best but I don't want junk either. What is considered decent? What should I stay away from?

Here are a few I was looking at.

Faxon Firearms https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1021781657?pid=529757

CMMG https://www.midwayusa.com/product/102329612

AR Stoner https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1022577533?pid=512759

Noveske https://www.midwayusa.com/product/102348669?pid=553902
 
https://www.youngmanufacturing.net/m16-chrome-complete-bolt-carrier-group-standard.aspx
 
For the money, I think a nitrided bolt is the way to go. You can get more expensive coatings, but for a modestly priced bolt that is for a back up bolt or bolt that is cleaned and serviced regularly it is worth getting a nitrided bolt vs a phosphate.

I get most of mine from Palmetto State Armory. They have all been in spec, function reliably, and shoot small groups. Ballistic Advantage is good as well. I dont have any experience with the premium brands.
 
Kinked_Chrome said:
For the money, I think a nitrided bolt is the way to go. You can get more expensive coatings, but for a modestly priced bolt that is for a back up bolt or bolt that is cleaned and serviced regularly it is worth getting a nitrided bolt vs a phosphate.

I get most of mine from Palmetto State Armory. They have all been in spec, function reliably, and shoot small groups. Ballistic Advantage is good as well. I dont have any experience with the premium brands.

Good to know thank you! I'm pretty sure mine are nitride bolts but I'll be sure to double check and stay away from phosphate.
 
Until nitride finish became more common and available, I always chose chromed bolts simply because the goo and crud didn't stick to them as good and they were easier to clean, as well as being slightly more reliable because they ran better dirty than parkerized bolts that the crud stuck to more easily.

And chrome just plain looked cool.

But, as Ron Smith at Smith Enterprises once explained to me, chromed bolts have 2 potential ways to bite you in the butt if your source for them is not an experienced and responsible producer;...
1. Proper bolts should ALWAYS pass Magnetic Particle Inspection (MPI) looking for microscopic cracks and flaws that are not always visible to plain optical inspection. An unscrupulous supplier might have bolts that have failed MPI but appear optically to be just fine, and decides to sell them off as serviceable. (I have had 2 such bolts break in half at the at the cam pin hole back when I used to select kit parts based on price alone.) Often such a turd will have them chromed to further disguise that they are sub-par.
2. Also, even if bolts sent out for chroming are fine when they arrive at the plater, some shops trying to be as efficient as possible will use HUGE plating tanks, dunking hundreds of bolt at a time to process as many as possible as quickly as possible. However, temperature is difficult to keep uniform throughout all the volume of such large tanks, and bolts in the center of the rack may stay within proper temperature during the process, while those on the outer part of the dunk rack closer to the edges might not. Thus, bolts that did not receive proper temp during the process can wear the chrome off and begin to flake. And there is no visual inspection that can tell you one from the other. The U.S. looked into chroming bolts and carriers to help resolve reliability issues during VietNam. They discovered this same problem. The solution was to process the bolts in smaller batches using smaller tanks to better regulate temp for quality control. But it was uneconomical and raised cost too much, so that improvement was abandoned. Typical.

And so, while I am not opposed to chrome bolts, I would only buy one from a very reputable source who has supplied them for years without many complaints, and who can talk to you intelligently about exactly where and how they have sourced their bolts. Young manufacturing and Smith Enterprises are 2 that I trust.
 
Suck My Glock said:
Until nitride finish became more common and available, I always chose chromed bolts simply because the goo and crud didn't stick to them as good and they were easier to clean, as well as being slightly more reliable because they ran better dirty than parkerized bolts that the crud stuck to more easily.

And chrome just plain looked cool.

But, as Ron Smith at Smith Enterprises once explained to me, chromed bolts have 2 potential ways to bite you in the butt if your source for them is not an experienced and responsible producer;...
1. Proper bolts should ALWAYS pass Magnetic Particle Inspection (MPI) looking for microscopic cracks and flaws that are not always visible to plain optical inspection. An unscrupulous supplier might have bolts that have failed MPI but appear optically to be just fine, and decides to sell them off as serviceable. (I have had 2 such bolts break in half at the at the cam pin hole back when I used to select kit parts based on price alone.) Often such a turd will have them chromed to further disguise that they are sub-par.
2. Also, even if bolts sent out for chroming are fine when they arrive at the plater, some shops trying to be as efficient as possible will use HUGE plating tanks, dunking hundreds of bolt at a time to process as many as possible as quickly as possible. However, temperature is difficult to keep uniform throughout all the volume of such large tanks, and bolts in the center of the rack may stay within proper temperature during the process, while those on the outer part of the dunk rack closer to the edges might not. Thus, bolts that did not receive proper temp during the process can wear the chrome off and begin to flake. And there is no visual inspection that can tell you one from the other. The U.S. looked into chroming bolts and carriers to help resolve reliability issues during VietNam. They discovered this same problem. The solution was to process the bolts in smaller batches using smaller tanks to better regulate temp for quality control. But it was uneconomical and raised cost too much, so that improvement was abandoned. Typical.

And so, while I am not opposed to chrome bolts, I would only buy one from a very reputable source who has supplied them for years without many complaints, and who can talk to you intelligently about exactly where and how they have sourced their bolts. Young manufacturing and Smith Enterprises are 2 that I trust.

I just read an article about MPI the other day. Good to know for sure! Crazy you had 2 bolts break in half! Sounds kind of scary to be honest. I'm not big on the chrome look, never really liked chrome on my Jeeps/Trucks, rifles etc. so I probably won't go with chrome. Thank you for your time and your reply!
 
The young mfg bolts are good stuff. I’ve used them in several calibers. Including 458 socom. Any bolt that’s mpi should be good. I like the DLC bolts, they just clean up easier. I’ve broke 2 areo bolts in my Grendel’s. I use Wilson combat stuff a lot now. I’ve got faxon bolts too. But for general use rifles that I run a lot of rounds through suppressed I run Wilson combat.
 
tabascoman79 said:
The young mfg bolts are good stuff. I’ve used them in several calibers. Including 458 socom. Any bolt that’s mpi should be good. I like the DLC bolts, they just clean up easier. I’ve broke 2 areo bolts in my Grendel’s. I use Wilson combat stuff a lot now. I’ve got faxon bolts too. But for general use rifles that I run a lot of rounds through suppressed I run Wilson combat.

Good to know thank you!
 
Looks like you're after some solid parts, and I've had good luck with ar15parts.com for that. Their selection is solid, and the prices are fair, especially if you're piecing together a build on a budget.
 
AO Precision is what I typically buy. Good chromed bolt that is the OEM for a lot nicer manufacturers. Can typically find them for 75 bucks
 
Colt Bolt's are the Gold standard.Proven over and over.
There is a great write up somehwere's in AR15.com by a Gun Club Rental in Las Vegas.
They keep track of all the weapons,issues and failures and shared the history of the bolts they used.Colt Bolts-MPI C158 Bolts outlasted
all the fancy and expensive bolts regardless of fancy finishes,metals and designs.
My M16's in service Colt bolts never failed me,all my AR's Colt or builds only get Colt Bolts.
Never have had any issues with them over the years,i stick with them. My .02 cents.
 
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