Demostrators marching into burbs, looking to get shot

Get off my lawn


https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/couple-aims-guns-at-protesters-072204408.html

This will not end well if this continues.

That's a pretty elaborate 'home' they have -almost looks like an old court house or federal building... I hope they both know how to use those and not just wave them around. All the comments I read support their actions, as do I... in principal.

I've always said, watch what happens in the cities first...

ETA, Just showing that they were armed, at a low ready would have been enough of a deterrent... by being outside their house and pointing them at the demon strators they were effectively brandishing and could probably be charged with a crime - not the outcome they wanted I'm sure. Y'all are right- they likely don't know squat about guns, when and how to use them or even hit a target. but I'm sure they saw some on TV...

bet they weren't looted tho....

That lady scared the shit out of me simply the way she held that thing around. Betcha nuts to gold she hasn't fired it more than a handful of times and simply got it because as a comfort blanket. He seemed at least somewhat familiar with the ar the way he held it and his trigger finger.

I dont fault people for wanting to protect themselves but before you point or display it you better be able to describe a literal belief of threat of death or severe bodily harm as likely some of these kool-aid drinkers will be on your jury.

That lady is a wild eyed moron.

Both are morons.

You can tell they never took any firearms course. Muzzle awareness was all over the place.

It's a good thing nothing happened as this could have been a very bad situation.

DrEarlCordova said:

That lady is a wild eyed moron.

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DrEarlCordova said:

That lady is a wild eyed moron.

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Ding ding ding we have a winner

mrbogangles said:

Both are morons.

You can tell they never took any firearms course. Muzzle awareness was all over the place.

It's a good thing nothing happened as this could have been a very bad situation.

DrEarlCordova said:

That lady is a wild eyed moron.

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Most people dont, they buy it, MAYBE, shoot it at a range, read the book on taking it apart and declare themselves competent.

Here is what MSN had to say.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/missouri-couple-point-guns-at-peaceful-protesters-calling-for-st-louis-mayor-to-resign/ar-BB166M31?ocid=msedgntp

I always believe in peaceful protesters! Just stay out of MY NIEGHBORHOOD.

Here is what MSN had to say.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/missouri-couple-point-guns-at-peaceful-protesters-calling-for-st-louis-mayor-to-resign/ar-BB166M31?ocid=msedgntp

I always believe in peaceful protesters! Just stay out of MY NIEGHBORHOOD.

I would think breaking through a secured iron gate to be the opposite of peaceful, just my humble opinion. Definitely reason to be concerned and watchful, as it was on a neighborhood and not immediate entrance into private home, however still a bit short of resson to point a firearm.

If they would have been charged by the crowd and were forced to defend themselves I'm not sure which way the jury would go. You cant put yourself in a position to have to use deadly force but you also cant rush and assault someone.... would be an interesting court case for sure. Just my opinion

Best place for this sh*t to happen is in these high dollar neighborhoods. They don't defend themselves and get looted or worse or they defend themselves, rioters/looters die and a precedent is set. These people have the money for attorneys should they need em. The rich stand up and take notice. The rich put the politicians on notice which puts the cops on notice to as Barney Fife so eloquently put it "Nip it in the Bud".

The way I see it either way is a win win to remain a law and order community and good for the pro2a community when it send guns sales off the charts. Better a high dollar hood than the working mans hood.jmho

Lobo2087 said:

I would think breaking through a secured iron gate to be the opposite of peaceful, just my humble opinion. Definitely reason to be concerned and watchful, as it was on a neighborhood and not immediate entrance into private home, however still a bit short of resson to point a firearm.

If they would have been charged by the crowd and were forced to defend themselves I'm not sure which way the jury would go. You cant put yourself in a position to have to use deadly force but you also cant rush and assault someone.... would be an interesting court case for sure. Just my opinion

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Not sure what the laws there are, but if it's true that they broke onto private property they may legally be in their rights. How would a prosecutor or jury look at it in the context of the current climate who knows. Being legally right and being found innocent are sometimes two different things. Brandishing could potentially apply, but again not sure what the laws for being on private property are. Perhaps it could be argued it's a defensive display? Obviously the optics don't look good given the shit trigger discipline and form and the emotions on display. Not saying that I'd be a cool hand luke/high speed low drag mofo when faced with what I'm sure they thought were overwhelming odds.

Husband and wife are both PI lawyers, operating their law practice out of their palatial home.
You got your lawyers; you got your guns; you got your money. Quick, somebody call Hank Williams, Jr.!

smithers599 said:

Husband and wife are both PI lawyers, operating their law practice out of their palatial home.
You got your lawyers; you got your guns; you got your money. Quick, somebody call Hank Williams, Jr.!

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...the shit has hit the fan :violin:

SecretV said:

Lobo2087 said:

I would think breaking through a secured iron gate to be the opposite of peaceful, just my humble opinion. Definitely reason to be concerned and watchful, as it was on a neighborhood and not immediate entrance into private home, however still a bit short of resson to point a firearm.

If they would have been charged by the crowd and were forced to defend themselves I'm not sure which way the jury would go. You cant put yourself in a position to have to use deadly force but you also cant rush and assault someone.... would be an interesting court case for sure. Just my opinion

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Not sure what the laws there are, but if it's true that they broke onto private property they may legally be in their rights. How would a prosecutor or jury look at it in the context of the current climate who knows. Being legally right and being found innocent are sometimes two different things. Brandishing could potentially apply, but again not sure what the laws for being on private property are. Perhaps it could be argued it's a defensive display? Obviously the optics don't look good given the s*** trigger discipline and form and the emotions on display. Not saying that I'd be a cool hand luke/high speed low drag mofo when faced with what I'm sure they thought were overwhelming odds.

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The problem with that being as it is a gate to the community and not likely attached to their domicile you dont have an immediate physical threat. Additionally as it is a community you have the possibility of one liberal saying they are "guests" in which case their presence is lawful and the hoa would have to take up a criminal damage case.

Additionally i am not sure where this defensive display phrase comes from. Unless you are in immediate threat of bodily harm or death unfortunately you dont generally get to "display" not to mention aggravated assault, by pointing a firearm at a rowdy group marching by on the street. Private property display has no credibility in this. While being rowdy from my understanding and view of the video, unless there is another I haven't seen, approaching and confronting someone away and off your immediate property removes a lot of your fear defense.

You would be hard pressed to claim self defense because from the story they were not on the individuals property, the community owns the street and sidewalk of a gated community not an individual, did not address this couple until confronted with firearms, threats and orders to keep moving.

Better to stay up on the porch or in the house weapons out of sight until forced to reveal them. Coming out approaching and confronting could reasonably be construed as instigating the violent confrontation.

May see a lot more of this

This didn't take long. The couple now supports the BLM movement and that the rioters were in the right.

Probably got a lot of threats and didn't want their house to be burnt down.

smithers599 said:

Husband and wife are both PI lawyers, operating their law practice out of their palatial home.
You got your lawyers; you got your guns; you got your money. Quick, somebody call Hank Williams, Jr.!

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Both are attorneys, and probably know the laws in Missouri better then we do. After reading their Castle doctrine laws in Missouri, you do not need to be threatened, as most laws in most states, a violation of Trespassing can justify a shooting in Missouri. Just saying !