ID requirement

[Azbuilder]

Whew !

[shooter444]

Whew !

WHEW!! is right!!!

It has really been cathartic to finally enlighten/discourage the ignorant who think any form of paper work, e.g., driver license, CCW card, rent receipts, pass port, bill of sale, birth certificate, etc. etc.,... will prevent them from legal charges if they sell to a prohibited possessor!

Arizona Law dose not say " selling to prohibited possessors will not be prosecuted, if you have a bunch of paper work!

It simply states " if you knowingly sell to prohibited possessor, you pay the legal price",...period!

[Flash]

To bad we can't do "likes" shooter444 I'd give you one.

[XJThrottle]

Give him a rep point.

[Ranger1]

Whew !

WHEW!! is right!!!

It has really been cathartic to finally enlighten/discourage the ignorant who think any form of paper work, e.g., driver license, CCW card, rent receipts, pass port, bill of sale, birth certificate, etc. etc.,... will prevent them from legal charges if they sell to a prohibited possessor!

Arizona Law dose not say " selling to prohibited possessors will not be prosecuted, if you have a bunch of paper work!

It simply states " if you knowingly sell to prohibited possessor, you pay the legal price",...period!

So if you knowingly sell to a bad guy??? Huh. Anyone could look like a priest or a saint. When in fact they could be a serial killer. I suppose by what you are saying if the gun was ever tracked back to me my life will be in the hands of a specially selected jury and they will say if I knowingly sold to this guy or gal. Huh. Then I guess I better buy from a Private party people, not sign the receipt and give no info. That way it can't be tracked to me. Thanks I will do that from Now on.

[YNOTAZ]

So if you knowingly sell to a bad guy???

I think you answered your own question.

Then I guess I better buy from a Private party people, not sign the receipt and give no info. That way it can't be tracked to me. Thanks I will do that from Now on.

If you never want a firearm traced back to you, then yes, but didn't you say you take a picture of CCW & DL. That blows the whole anonymity theory.

[17-21-23]

I will only sell to a private party if the buyer can show me an ID and CCW. I do not keep record of the sale but, gives me a little peace of mind knowing the person has a CCW. JMO

[XJThrottle]

Why would some of you require a CCW? Average Joe gun buyer mostly likely won't have it.

[Ranger1]

Or a DL.

[shooter444]

I will only sell to a private party if the buyer can show me an ID and CCW. I do not keep record of the sale but, gives me a little peace of mind knowing the person has a CCW. JMO

WHY does that give you peace of mind?

[shooter444]

Why would some of you require a CCW? Average Joe gun buyer mostly likely won't have it.

A real CCW card can only be issued after a background check by local police, state level law enforcement and the Feds. So, I was told.

Which would validate a buyer as legally qualified to possess a firearm,.... the only legal requirement by the state of Az..

[shooter444]

So if you knowingly sell to a bad guy???

I think you answered your own question.

Then I guess I better buy from a Private party people, not sign the receipt and give no info. That way it can't be tracked to me. Thanks I will do that from Now on.

If you never want a firearm traced back to you, then yes, but didn't you say you take a picture of CCW & DL. That blows the whole anonymity theory.

I think the waters are getting a bit muddied.

I can't think of any reason why anyone would fear a weapon being traced back to them, just not a problem.

UNLESS

You are knowingly doing a "straw purchase sale"!

Or, you knowingly are selling to a prohibited purchaser!

Or, you are selling a stolen weapon!

Or, you originally purchased it from a seller that constantly buys and sells without a FFLicense,... you never know what they are peddling, because they don't know!

[YNOTAZ]

You can't legally sell to an out of state resident or sell a pistol to someone under 21.

That's why you often see "flash AZ D/L" which is sufficient proof of residence and age. "Flash CCW" gives sufficient proof that buyer is not a restricted possessor.

For all other private sales, just ship the firearm to Chicago where it's still illegal but ignored.

[shooter444]

You can't legally sell to an out of state resident or sell a pistol to someone under 21.

That's why you often see "flash AZ D/L" which is sufficient proof of residence and age. "Flash CCW" gives sufficient proof that buyer is not a restricted possessor.

For all other private sales, just ship the firearm to Chicago where it's still illegal but ignored.

GOOD and PROPER POINTS!

[Pro2a]

You can't legally sell to an out of state resident or sell a pistol to someone under 21.

That's why you often see "flash AZ D/L" which is sufficient proof of residence and age. "Flash CCW" gives sufficient proof that buyer is not a restricted possessor.

For all other private sales, just ship the firearm to Chicago where it's still illegal but ignored.

hmmm, I was about to point out how my simple question has turned into a lively debate on the technicality of a lot of words, but now I must ask, if we don't need to see ID, how do we know we are "legally" selling to an AZ resident.
As far as I can remember, someone between the ages of 18 and 21 can legally buy a pistol in a private sale (just not thru an FFL), can they not now?