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Beer , guns and bulletproof vests
- delta6
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Suck My Glock wrote: ↑April 5th, 2019, 1:12 am You know,...both these guys engaged in this thing willingly. If either of them sustained any injuries,...who cares? Why waste public resources detaining these organ donors? Give em' a camera crew and a production budget so we can all benefit.
- delta6
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Re: Beer , guns and bulletproof vests
Yes u r correct. The people I train with use live ammo. You r suppose to hit the AR 500.plate. we do. No one gets hurt.
- YNOTAZ
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Oh yeah, nobody ever misses the plate.
BTW how do you lug the plate around in a run-N-gun scenario or is it a 2" plate?
BTW how do you lug the plate around in a run-N-gun scenario or is it a 2" plate?
Re: Beer , guns and bulletproof vests
Yeah I take pics of people I work with. All you do is consume oxygen and produce nothing but sh!t. That's to bad.
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You guys with all your training, never trained like this?
- Crippledtrigger
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So are you shooting real ammo from real rifles or handguns in this training or simunitions? How do you deal with spall?
Re: Beer , guns and bulletproof vests
Yes. You kit up, jock up, what ever you want to call it, just like the real deal. If you hit the plate right the carrier and pouches will catch it. If not, I hope you are wearing your oakley's. Yes both rifles and pistols.
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Coming from someone that knows?
- Crippledtrigger
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Re: Beer , guns and bulletproof vests
I dont think you know what spall is. It's not a sliver you got in your eye. Infact it would be coming from a direction where your Oakleys protection is very little.
Spall = shrapnel. It probably wont kill you outright like a bullet but it's not to be dismissed like you are.
Why would you purposely send spall into areas with large veins or arteries like neck and upper arms hoping your pouches or bed liner catch it? Since you mentioned it, are there mags in your pouches? In other words I call bullsheit.
I'll give you 100 dollars if you show video of you being shot at/shooting at others in force on force training like you described, i.e. with real weapons and real ammo and AR 500 plates. Then make available a Couple of participants so we can verify. Hell, I even promise not to refer you for a 3 day emergency phych eval.
I dont know of anyone who does force on force training like you described so again I call bullsheit.
Spall = shrapnel. It probably wont kill you outright like a bullet but it's not to be dismissed like you are.
Why would you purposely send spall into areas with large veins or arteries like neck and upper arms hoping your pouches or bed liner catch it? Since you mentioned it, are there mags in your pouches? In other words I call bullsheit.
I'll give you 100 dollars if you show video of you being shot at/shooting at others in force on force training like you described, i.e. with real weapons and real ammo and AR 500 plates. Then make available a Couple of participants so we can verify. Hell, I even promise not to refer you for a 3 day emergency phych eval.
I dont know of anyone who does force on force training like you described so again I call bullsheit.
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Sorry old man. But you will never get me to put a video up of me doing that. Yes that's right ,that's all I need is for someone to come knocking on my door. I told you the way I use to trian and I have no spall, frag, jacket,etc in my neck ,forearms etc. Now you don't like it ,I suggest you don't do it. But don't go busting my balls on something you have never done. That's all. O by the way ,I don't trust you.