ATF's brace ban struck down again

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@Tenring... thank you for the info !


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vvalter_vvhite wrote: November 24th, 2023, 1:12 am @Tenring... thank you for the info !
Just a video not advise, but I like watching them, they do seem to be up to date on what is happening.
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The administrative state loses another round in the Mock v. Garland (pistol brace ban) case.
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Sure looks like this one is dead-dead... Hope that is the case... although I was sort of hoping that it would be the thing that SCOTUS uses to end the Chevron doctrine...
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BigNate wrote: June 14th, 2024, 7:40 am Sure looks like this one is dead-dead... Hope that is the case... although I was sort of hoping that it would be the thing that SCOTUS uses to end the Chevron doctrine...
Well, I was more hoping they'd overturn Wickard V. Filburn myself. SCOTUS should be hearing a similar case to the one they invalidated. There may be more to their decision in these other cases.

And in other news, SCOTUS shot down the bump stock ban.


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/suprem ... ump-stocks

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kenpoprofessor wrote: June 14th, 2024, 7:43 am
BigNate wrote: June 14th, 2024, 7:40 am Sure looks like this one is dead-dead... Hope that is the case... although I was sort of hoping that it would be the thing that SCOTUS uses to end the Chevron doctrine...
Well, I was more hoping they'd overturn Wickard V. Filburn myself. SCOTUS should be hearing a similar case to the one they invalidated. There may be more to their decision in these other cases.

And in other news, SCOTUS shot down the bump stock ban.


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/suprem ... ump-stocks

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Will atf buy bump stocks for all the people that destroyed their’s per atf instructions?
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I just read the full majority opinion and interestingly they did not take on Chevron Doctrine, but they did take such a huge swipe at it that this decision may be quoted in other SCOTUS cases, especially those pertaining to any ATF, "new interpretations" of existing law. Here is the closing quote:

"And, “it is never our job to rewrite . . . statutory text under the banner of speculation about what Congress might have done.” Henson v. Santander Consumer USA Inc., 582 U. S. 79, 89 (2017). 9 III

For the foregoing reasons, we affirm the judgment of the Court of Appeals.

It is so ordered."


SCOTUS also gave their reasoning for this statement, in a footnote, which may significantly narrow the scope of Chevron.
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YNOTAZ wrote: June 14th, 2024, 8:45 am I just read the full majority opinion and interestingly they did not take on Chevron Doctrine, but they did take such a huge swipe at it that this decision may be quoted in other SCOTUS cases, especially those pertaining to any ATF, "new interpretations" of existing law. Here is the closing quote:

"And, “it is never our job to rewrite . . . statutory text under the banner of speculation about what Congress might have done.” Henson v. Santander Consumer USA Inc., 582 U. S. 79, 89 (2017). 9 III

For the foregoing reasons, we affirm the judgment of the Court of Appeals.

It is so ordered."


SCOTUS also gave their reasoning for this statement, in a footnote, which may significantly narrow the scope of Chevron.
They've finally started making opinions on the rights of the citizen with the "rule of levity". I was wondering why that was never a thing over the last 50 years, seems they're finally coming to an understanding of it. Now, if they'd go after Wickard V. Filburn, we could get Obamacare dismantled and the suppressor laws of each state in.

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There was never a chance that these cases would be used to overturn Chevron. There are two cases which they were specifically asked to overturn it. Loper Bright vs Raimondo and then, more encouragingly, they added Relentless vs Dept of Commerce. Both were heard on the same day in mid-January. Analysis of both cases were indicative of a positive outcome for restricting, or more likely, completely gutting Chevron
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Rule of levity? Yep, law can be funny sometimes. :-)
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So glad former President Trump's BS bump stock ban is finally dead... maybe the brace restriction is next!
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NBC_LT wrote: June 15th, 2024, 8:33 am So glad former President Trump's BS bump stock ban is finally dead... maybe the brace restriction is next!
This entire thread is about the brace ban being knocked down. It’s dead.
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Re: ATF's brace ban struck down again

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It’s nice to have SCOTUS justices that understand what words mean, and not base their rulings on feelings.
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