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Most who have worked with power tools cutting metal and have closely looked at their gun safes know how simple cutting a hole would be. So, Install the safe in a location where access to top, sides and back would be difficult and take lots of time and make lots of noise getting there.

The front of the safe is a bit more involved to cut into but not impossible. Depends on the quality of the safe. Plus cutting into the front would require a good sized hole to remove most rifles. I put one of my safes in a very small closet which means cutting holes in walls in addition to cutting into the safe itself.

Building a safe into a wall is also a great idea if the other side of that wall has difficult access.

Nothing is fool proof. Just hope whoever does break into your house is a fool.

RandyTF wrote: ↑December 16th, 2018, 6:55 am Most who have worked with power tools cutting metal and have closely looked at their gun safes know how simple cutting a hole would be. So, Install the safe in a location where access to top, sides and back would be difficult and take lots of time and make lots of noise getting there.

The front of the safe is a bit more involved to cut into but not impossible. Depends on the quality of the safe. Plus cutting into the front would require a good sized hole to remove most rifles. I put one of my safes in a very small closet which means cutting holes in walls in addition to cutting into the safe itself.

Building a safe into a wall is also a great idea if the other side of that wall has difficult access.

Nothing is fool proof. Just hope whoever does break into your house is a fool.

If a thief is determined, they will get what they came for.
My uncle once lived in Costa Rica when his gun safe was stolen. The thieves simply knocked the safe over & rolled it out the door. No, it wasn't bolted down. He lost thousands in guns & jewelry.

Security involves layers, a gun safe is just one layer.

Gun safes aren't made of hardened tool steel sides. Even the cheapest cutting tools would go right through them.

How thick does a safe need to be to reasonably slow down a power tool attack?

Any safe that advertises that they are so and so gauge is nothing but sheet metal .
I bought my safe right around 40 years ago.
It is made out of steel.
The sides are two layers of laminated 1/4 inch steel and the door is two layers of laminated 3/8 inch steel.
It would be real tough to cut through it.
As far as moving it you would have to cut a hole in the wall to get it out.
That is how I got it in.

If you want real security , fence off your property and get a bunch of good dogs.

Safes are employing 1800s technology. Power tools didn't exist when they were invented. Get a decent one (after all it's nice to have a nice cabinet for your guns, right?), bolt it down properly, and add alarms and cameras.

I remember the days when this was safe gun storage.

Most of what people like to call "safes" AREN'T.

Unless the safe body is constructed out of plate steel you simply have a "Residential Security Container".

Thank God I added 1 inch AR 500 plate to my safe.

17-21-23 wrote: ↑June 20th, 2019, 7:07 pm Thank God I added 1 inch AR 500 plate to my safe.

If true, it would have been cheaper/easier/smarter to simply put the approx $4K cost of plate (not including cutting and specialized welder work) towards a real safe.

17-21-23 wrote: ↑June 20th, 2019, 7:07 pm Thank God I added 1 inch AR 500 plate to my safe.

Good idea but using the combination as your user name kinda defeats the thousands of dollars investment.