You don't sound like a Fudd to me, but you also don't sound like you really like guns much. IMO, you have a very close minded idea of what is required to "enjoy a rifle proper". Then you say "Fast Closer quarter stuff works for me". Well, you may be surprised that most people consider an AR carbine the perfect weapon for fast closer quarter stuff. I grew up with the gospel of the 12 guage, but I don't even shoot shotguns anymore because I think that a .223 carbine is superior for almost any close quarter scenario I can come up with.Boriqua wrote: ↑February 2nd, 2023, 6:20 pm I dont own higher caliber rifles because its just not my interest. To enjoy a rifle proper would require a range at least 300m or finding a spot in the desert to allow for it and its honestly more work than I want to invest. From what i read most of the available outdoor ranges where you can enjoy a rifle are riff with oppressive nasty RO's and .. just not my thing. I enjoyed shooting rifles at Casa grande but its a haul.
I had my experience with rifles while in the service and my interest is in mostly handguns since its something I carry and have around the house for immediate personal protection.. More power to anyone who enjoys longer range shooting and I might were it not for some of the hoops you have to jump through to enjoy them but .. I can go nearly anywhere and shoot my handguns and the same cant be said for Rifles although .. If I could find a pistol cartridge lever action say in .357 that was reliable .. I would be all over it ... but for the most part I really enjoy mastering handguns and shotgunning.Fast Closer quarter stuff works for me
Anyway, not a Fudd, but I think there are a lot more ways to enjoy guns than you seem to be open to.
My opinion, worth the nothing you paid for it.