Pistol Brace ruling from ATF released.

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Re: Pistol Brace ruling from ATF released.

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YNOTAZ wrote: January 19th, 2023, 12:45 pm
Crippledtrigger wrote: January 18th, 2023, 7:41 pm Still not published in the register.
Anyone who wants to play it safe, still has time to transfer their braced pistols into their trust so the trust gets free tax stamps if they decide to register.

It only takes a couple minutes and is meaningless if you decide not to register or ATF gets slapped down as they should.
Maybe....the Form 1 website requires proof of Trust ownership prior to 1/13/2023. Now, is that date a place holder while they decide on the actual Federal Register entry date? No one really knows...but printing out a new Schedule A for your trust with all your braced firearms listed is a pretty easy hedge.


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LMFAO, Morons:

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Re: Pistol Brace ruling from ATF released.

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QuietM4 wrote: January 19th, 2023, 2:44 pm
YNOTAZ wrote: January 19th, 2023, 12:45 pm
Crippledtrigger wrote: January 18th, 2023, 7:41 pm Still not published in the register.
Anyone who wants to play it safe, still has time to transfer their braced pistols into their trust so the trust gets free tax stamps if they decide to register.

It only takes a couple minutes and is meaningless if you decide not to register or ATF gets slapped down as they should.
Maybe....the Form 1 website requires proof of Trust ownership prior to 1/13/2023. Now, is that date a place holder while they decide on the actual Federal Register entry date? No one really knows...but printing out a new Schedule A for your trust with all your braced firearms listed is a pretty easy hedge.
I know a guy who didn't even add them to the trust schedule. He did a transfer of personal property form with a schedule "A" of items transferred, then had his signature notarized to establish the date of transfer to an existing NFA trust.

If ATF gets their hands slapped he intends to just transfer them back to private ownership or lose the forms. If not he will wait until the last week or so and might register them for free.
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Re: Pistol Brace ruling from ATF released.

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YNOTAZ wrote: January 19th, 2023, 6:55 pm
QuietM4 wrote: January 19th, 2023, 2:44 pm
YNOTAZ wrote: January 19th, 2023, 12:45 pm

Anyone who wants to play it safe, still has time to transfer their braced pistols into their trust so the trust gets free tax stamps if they decide to register.

It only takes a couple minutes and is meaningless if you decide not to register or ATF gets slapped down as they should.
Maybe....the Form 1 website requires proof of Trust ownership prior to 1/13/2023. Now, is that date a place holder while they decide on the actual Federal Register entry date? No one really knows...but printing out a new Schedule A for your trust with all your braced firearms listed is a pretty easy hedge.
I know a guy who didn't even add them to the trust schedule. He did a transfer of personal property form with a schedule "A" of items transferred, then had his signature notarized to establish the date of transfer to an existing NFA trust.

If ATF gets their hands slapped he intends to just transfer them back to private ownership or lose the forms. If not he will wait until the last week or so and might register them for free.

I'm doing the same. Had it notarized today after lunch (apparently my office building offers an in house notary service for free...which I did not know about until today!). Also might have added a few stripped lowers to the list as well...I'm in the middle of assembling them with KAK blades right now :lol: .

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Almost like they are offering you something for free .... is forbearance free .... or can they change their minds a few years from now. Because you still owe the price of the stamp.

Since when is anything free especially from these people, this is a trap.
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I'm also in the wait and see category. The guy I know who transferred pistols into a trust has SBRs so his short barrels are 100% legal, and a lot of 16" uppers, so no way to play a "constructive intent" game. One item remains, an AK pistol with a brace so he may do something with that after the smoke settles. Here are the option:

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Pale Rider wrote: January 19th, 2023, 6:00 pm LMFAO, Morons:

Ya'll are forwarned you lemming fudds out there...
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I was really never that impressed with my pistol. I've been wanting a long scoped type anyway.
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Firemoose wrote: January 23rd, 2023, 12:27 am I was really never that impressed with my pistol. I've been wanting a long scoped type anyway.
Ah, nothing like more "I'll comply" virtue signaling.

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Skip the first TWO minutes. It's addressing click-bait he put into a prior unrelated vid..

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Is Fuddsy Huddsy back with a new alt? Boy, I got caught out thinking Troll Tuesday had come early. What a great surprise!
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At 6:01 they say a buffer tube is ok.......

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Here also:

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They say what makes it a rifle are the type of optic, length of pull, surface area of the brace/receiver extension, and other things. They refuse to define what any of those things are so they cannot be complied with. They don't want the ability to comply in a way they don't like as was done with the 94 AWB.
I'm going to take a free sbr on something I was planning on doing anyways but just that one, hopefully this s*** gets destroyed in the courts and preferably the nfa as a whole... this vague and capricious "redefining" of things already defined in stature needs to stop.
The non-compliance on this is going to be way more widespread than the much less widely owned bumpstocks.
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