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XJThrottle wrote: ↑April 27th, 2019, 11:14 amYou should care about what other state's Governments do. California's Government infringed all over their rights. Fed rights could stay the same for eternity, and it wouldn't mean s*** if every state enacted similar control.
Hmmm,... maybe you should try not be telling other people what they should, or, should not be care with. I choose to not be care what California does, or, doesn't do. If you have a problem with that,... well,......... think about it.
XJThrottle wrote: ↑April 27th, 2019, 11:14 amIt's a free country, but not so much if you live with an HOA. Yeah, you have 40 acres, blah, blah, blah. It isn't Sovereign acreage.
Since there are so many, much more smarter people on the record, concerning Sovereignty / Rights,... I will acquiesce to one of my superiors,...
"John Adams, Sovereignty quotes:
The poor people, it is true, have been much less successful than the great. They have seldom found either leisure or opportunity to form a union and exert their strength; ignorant as they were of arts and letters, they have seldom been able to frame and support a regular opposition. This, however, has been known by the great to be the temper of mankind; and they have accordingly labored, in all ages, to wrest from the populace, as they are contemptuously called, the knowledge of their rights and wrongs, and the power to assert the former or redress the latter. I say RIGHTS, for such they have, undoubtedly, antecedent to all earthly government, Rights, that cannot be repealed or restrained by human laws, Rights, derived from the great Legislator of the universe."
Symbolic gesture at best. The UN Small Arms Treaty was signed but never ratified. Which means it never had any application to American government or law.
Trump might be better than Hillary but you are naive if you think Trump is a friend of gun owners.
"Hey Mr. ATF man, my name is shooter444. And, I say RIGHTS, for such they have, undoubtedly, antecedent to all earthly government, Rights, that cannot be repealed or restrained by human laws, Rights, derived from the great Legislator of the universe."
Mr. ATF man, "That's neat. You're coming with us."
Ballistic Therapy wrote: ↑April 27th, 2019, 11:12 amOK.
Let me ask you this. I will rearrange two words.
So if we adopted California gun laws would it be OK with you ?
You can rewrite it a thousand different ways,.... my answer will remain constant,... I only care about Government Infringements upon my Creator Endowed Inalienable Human Rights!
And, for the very last time,... I don't care about what California may, or, may not do,... period!
Yes I understand you don't care about any other state or what laws they pass.
Read it one more time.
You still haven't answered the question .
I will highlight the part that makes it our state.
So if we adopted California gun laws would it be OK with you ?
We adopted as in Arizona adopted.
It's really a simple question.
I will let you have the last word.
XJThrottle wrote: ↑April 27th, 2019, 12:12 pm
"Hey Mr. ATF man, my name is shooter444. And, I say RIGHTS, for such they have, undoubtedly, antecedent to all earthly government, Rights, that cannot be repealed or restrained by human laws, Rights, derived from the great Legislator of the universe."
Mr. ATF man, "That's neat. You're coming with us."
THAT IS A QUOTE FROM John Adams,... YOU MORON!!!
You don't represent me, you don't represent the ATF,.. if you ever have an original thought, come on back some time.
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XJThrottle wrote: ↑April 27th, 2019, 12:12 pm"Hey Mr. ATF man, my name is shooter444. And, I say RIGHTS, for such they have, undoubtedly, antecedent to all earthly government, Rights, that cannot be repealed or restrained by human laws, Rights, derived from the great Legislator of the universe."
Mr. ATF man, "That's neat. You're coming with us."
This post,... your fantasy post,...with your fantasy words,...from your fantasy thoughts,... are a direct response to the quote of John Adams,.... not a response to ONE WORD I WROTE.
XJThrottle wrote: ↑April 27th, 2019, 12:12 pm
"Hey Mr. ATF man, my name is shooter444. And, I say RIGHTS, for such they have, undoubtedly, antecedent to all earthly government, Rights, that cannot be repealed or restrained by human laws, Rights, derived from the great Legislator of the universe."
Mr. ATF man, "That's neat. You're coming with us."
THAT IS A QUOTE FROM John Adams,... YOU MORON!!!
You don't represent me, you don't represent the ATF,.. if you ever have an original thought, come on back some time.
<mod voice mode> Both of you take a moment and relax. Its a discussion forum.
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shooter444 wrote: ↑April 27th, 2019, 11:32 am
You can rewrite it a thousand different ways,.... my answer will remain constant,... I only care about Government Infringements upon my Creator Endowed Inalienable Human Rights!
And, for the very last time,... I don't care about what California may, or, may not do,... period!
So you basically only care about the infringement on God given rights when it finally impacts YOU. As you blissfully ignore the events leading up to that day.
Tim McBride wrote: ↑April 27th, 2019, 12:03 pm
Symbolic gesture at best. The UN Small Arms Treaty was signed but never ratified. Which means it never had any application to American government or law.
Trump might be better than Hillary but you are naive if you think Trump is a friend of gun owners.
That un-ratified Treaty would hang over American citizens heads though and if the Dems ever controlled both Houses the hammer could have fallen.
Trump isn't the best friend gun owners ever had but he has done more to secure those rights due to SCOTUS appointments then any President in recent history. Along with his exposure of the Left's hypocrisy and true intentions.
Tim McBride wrote: ↑April 27th, 2019, 12:03 pm
Symbolic gesture at best. The UN Small Arms Treaty was signed but never ratified. Which means it never had any application to American government or law.
Trump might be better than Hillary but you are naive if you think Trump is a friend of gun owners.
That un-ratified Treaty would hang over American citizens heads though and if the Dems ever controlled both Houses the hammer could have fallen.
What you must have meant was 2/3 majority in the Senate. If you really meant a simple majority in both house you slept through Government class.
Just FYI, nothing stopping a future President with a supermajority Senate from resigning and getting 2/3 consent.
As for the rest, Trump is a great President, I'm pushing for his re election. I'm not however going to fool myself that he's 'Pro Gun'. A lot of the things hes done that have potential to help us (SCOTUS and other judges) is a side effect of his viewpoints. Most conservative judges are also marginally pro gun.
President Donald J. Trump has been a work in progress his whole life,.... as we all.
He has shown great courage in evolving to correct conservative decisions, imo,... and I'll be more than willing to give him more than enough rope,... if you get my meaning.
Anyone expecting perfection,... from another human being,... show me your perfection credentials and I'll listen to you, more seriously!
I just like the fact that he's trolling Obongo. Hey POS, ya know that treaty where you tried to pull one over on American gun owners and it was never ratified?; well suck it, it has ZERO chance now while I'm president. If that doesn't put a smile on your face, then I don't know what to tell you.
