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Gotta say Crip speaketh the truth. +1


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"A search of Arizona shows that 37% of the population are gunowners. Only 17,000 gun owners are AzCDL members. With a 2020 population of 7,378,494, in a perfect world there should be
2,730,042 gun owners actively participating in keeping their rights. 17,000 is a scary number.
It reminds me of the gunowners on the CA. website who would not join NRA or any other organization. Their attitude was there was no advantage to it. It was a ripoff. " quote from madjack on another site.
All of the gun owners NEED to join the Arizona Citizens Defense League.(AZCDL). They acutally help gunowners in Arizona. AZCDL has 2 volunteer lobbyists at state congress right now to let members know what is happening there. Please join. At the 2nd amendment rally this Saturday, online or at a gun show.
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Time to send them all a friendly little email to remind them we will not tolerate this sh!t
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Emails are great but membership in AZCDL is better.

Remember Dems will do what they do. After they lose this one which they will because it is so draconian, they will come back with a "common sense compromise". They eliminate the broad, general definition of assault weapon and be specific to weapons "not used for hunting" ARs, AKs, and their variants.

Then they characterize all of us who don't agree as right wing radicals. Join AZCDL and get their membership to swell. The cost is the same as one box of ammo.
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YNOTAZ wrote: February 12th, 2020, 11:08 am Emails are great but membership in AZCDL is better.

Remember Dems will do what they do. After they lose this one which they will because it is so draconian, they will come back with a "common sense compromise". They eliminate the broad, general definition of assault weapon and be specific to weapons "not used for hunting" ARs, AKs, and their variants.

Then they characterize all of us who don't agree as right wing radicals. Join AZCDL and get their membership to swell. The cost is the same as one box of ammo.
And a rally AFTER the fact in VA did nothing for changes already in play. Sure it was a wake up call but they needed to make noise before it happened.
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Why is it that most of the sponsors have Mexican sounding names?????
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338lapua wrote: February 12th, 2020, 1:06 pm Why is it that most of the sponsors have Mexican sounding names?????


In today's politically charged atmosphere, with blatant attempts to silent personal opinion/s,... I kind'a doubt you will get the answer you should,... or, would expect!

I simply will add this,... George Soros is pumping some bookoo bucks into Arizona, to promote One World Socialist / Progressivism, Anti-Constitutional Agendas,... for me, it simply boils down to, one and one equals...!!!
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From AZCDL today
SB 1625 (assault weapons; magazines; prohibition; registration) was introduced in the Arizona State Senate on Wednesday, February 5 and assigned to the Judiciary Committee. The bill is designed to be an egregious threat to our Right to Keep and Bear Arms, and is similar to bills introduced across the nation. Promoted by the various astroturf groups under the umbrella of anti-rights billionaire Mike Bloomberg (e.g. Moms Demand Action, Everytown for Gun Safety, etc.), the bill would ban “assault weapons” and “large capacity” magazines. The language of the bill is so broad that nearly all semi-automatic firearms ever produced would be covered, as well as any ammunition feeding device “with the capacity to accept more than ten rounds”, which, again, means pretty much all of them.

We listed the bill on our Bill Tracking Page immediately, along with several others introduced by the same group of gun grabbers. These bills were also referenced in our recent “Legislative Update” Alert. However, in a demonstration of the power of social media, when a YouTube video appeared warning everyone of dire consequences should this bill see the light of day, the Internet lit up.

While we certainly appreciate the efforts of all members of the firearms community to call attention to truly awful bills such as this, it may have saved some time had folks reached out to us here at AzCDL to begin with. We’ve been tracking legislation here in Arizona for fifteen years now, and we have a pretty good read on what is and isn’t likely to move. And, as bad as this bill is, we knew from the start it was unlikely to be going anywhere.

However, to err on the side of caution, AzCDL has reached out to the Senate Leadership to clarify the status of this gun grabber’s wish list. Senate Majority Whip Sonny Borelli (R - LD 5) assured us that the bill has no future. He shared the following: ”I am adamantly opposed to the bill sponsored by Democrat Senator Rios from Legislative District 27. The Chairman (of Judiciary) assures me that the bill will not be heard in Committee.”

Though we are assured the bill will not move, we encourage everyone who values their rights to continue to contact the Senators who sponsored this abomination, especially if you live in one of their districts. Politely inform them of your position on it, and anti-rights bills in general. Many of these folks seem to believe that these kinds of bills have popular support. It’s up to us to prove them wrong.

SB 1625 is sponsored by:
Prime sponsor: Sen. Rios (D - Dist 27)
Other sponsors: Sen. Alston (D - Dist 24), Sen. Bradley (D - Dist 10), Sen. Contreras (D - Dist 19), Sen. Dalessandro (D - Dist 2), Sen. Gonzales (D - Dist 3), Sen. Mendez (D - Dist 26), Sen. Navarrete (D - Dist 30), Sen. Otondo (D - Dist 4), Sen. Peshlakai (D - Dist 7), Sen. Quezada (D - Dist 29), Sen. Steele (D - Dist 9)

Having a pro-rights majority matters, and here in Arizona, that majority is hanging by a thread. The next election is not far away, and the outcome could well mean the difference between bills like SB 1625 moving or not. As we’re fond of reminding people, “If you want better laws, elect better lawmakers”. Mike Bloomberg and his cronies will be spending heavily, here in Arizona and across the country, to get more anti-rights people, like those who sponsored this bill, into office. We must NOT let that happen. Sitting on the sidelines is simply not an option.

What’s been happening in Virginia and other states must be a lesson to us all. We can rush headlong down the road to tyranny, or we can maintain our status as “The best state for gun owners” into the foreseeable future.

The choice is yours.
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I can't wait for anarchy. Please please please let it happen. I'm tired of hearing about what should or could or maybe or might. I want something to happen so we can move on to the next phase
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There you go, the list of the demoncraps courtesy of AZCDL, that need a little sum n sum n in their in box. I mentioned the fact their time would be better spent trying to solve the lack of care for the mentally disturbed and drug abuse in the state.
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Elk34 wrote: February 12th, 2020, 6:13 pm I can't wait for anarchy. Please please please let it happen. I'm tired of hearing about what should or could or maybe or might. I want something to happen so we can move on to the next phase
I'm kinda with you. The reason the frog gets cooked is because of slow heat. Progressives have been around for over 100 years, Teddy Roosevelt was one, and they're winning with baby steps. I don't recognize the country of my youth anymore, but it's been decades in the making.

Everyone should read the book Unintended Consequences by John Ross.
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338lapua wrote: February 12th, 2020, 1:06 pm Why is it that most of the sponsors have Mexican sounding names?????
Yep, I noticed that, too...
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338lapua wrote: February 12th, 2020, 1:06 pm Why is it that most of the sponsors have Mexican sounding names?????
Because immigrants from all parts of the world have been traditionally wooed by the Democratic party. The Italians who came en masse in the early 1900's were the basis for most labor unions.

The Mexican immigrants are no different. That is until the particular immigrant group is here a couple of generations, no longer believe the teet is the way to make it in America and embraces capitalism with all its warts.

It is the same with every single group. When you come off the plane, Boat or slogging through the water or desert and someone offers you free food, housing and medical you embrace it and feel beholden.

2 generations later when you own a little plumbing business or a little grocery store of your own and you realize none of that was free and now you have to pay for it .. you become republican.

There is a reason the Dems want open borders. Its where they find their constituency but make no mistake .. there were dems waiting on the docks when the Irish and Italians arrived. They depend on the huddled masses to fill their ranks but .. its not a race or ethnicity thing.

If spacemen abandoned their planet and landed in the desert there would be Dems there ... not because they are more compassionate but because they will have new voters.
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Boriqua wrote: February 13th, 2020, 9:03 am
2 generations later when you own a little plumbing business or a little grocery store of your own and you realize none of that was free and now you have to pay for it .. you become republican.
What was that old saying: if you young and aren't liberal you have no heart. If your old and aren't conservative you have no brain.

Same applies here. Whether it's owning a home, a couple cars and other tangible things, or a small business, discovering you have to pay for all those things for other people and the government never had a big candy store earning their own money, is a rude awakening.
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Boriqua wrote: February 13th, 2020, 9:03 am 2 generations later when you own a little plumbing business or a little grocery store of your own and you realize none of that was free and now you have to pay for it .. you become republican.
The problem is that most people don't end up owning their own business and in many ways are still sucking on the government teat 'til the day they die so they never become Republican.
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