Armed ATF Agents Going Door To Door To Seize FRTs
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Armed ATF Agents Going Door To Door To Seize FRTs
The ATF goons are at it again. This time it is forced reset triggers. Here is a video that was just uploaded by Mr. GunsNGear.
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Re: Armed ATF Agents Going Door To Door To Seize FRTs
sounds like the ATF isn't letting FRT's go, they have lost on most other fronts, nut are doubling down on this one?
wonder why and what's next...
wonder why and what's next...
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Re: Armed ATF Agents Going Door To Door To Seize FRTs
Just remember a court recently ruled that you claiming your 5th amendment right against self-incrimination when speaking to law enforcement can be used in a criminal trial to prejudice a judge or jury. It's OK in court, and a judge will explain that to the jury who just got prejudiced by you stating it in court. So they all but neutered the 5th amendment.
A much better method is to say "my attorney told me to never talk to law enforcement without him present, I am following his advice."
A much better method is to say "my attorney told me to never talk to law enforcement without him present, I am following his advice."
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Re: Armed ATF Agents Going Door To Door To Seize FRTs
Watching how they proceed here will tell us a lot about what they will try next...cool arrow wrote: ↑May 10th, 2023, 3:02 am sounds like the ATF isn't letting FRT's go, they have lost on most other fronts, nut are doubling down on this one?
wonder why and what's next...
Them watching how people respond to what they are doing here will inform what they try to do next...
What is most critical is how the gun community responds to this, and how the federal courts rule on this sort of unconstitutional expansion of executive agency policy and authority...
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I'm just curious how they knew he bought any FRTs. Intimidating a licensee to volunteer their customer list.
Everybody thinks this is something new but the FCC attempted to intimidate AT&T when AT&T said they were going to break out their bill to all the individual charges. The courts stepped in, AT&T did it, and we learned that we were still paying excise tax for the Spanis American war.
Our government is thoroughly corrupt, not just ATF and DOJ but the entire alphabet.
Everybody thinks this is something new but the FCC attempted to intimidate AT&T when AT&T said they were going to break out their bill to all the individual charges. The courts stepped in, AT&T did it, and we learned that we were still paying excise tax for the Spanis American war.
Our government is thoroughly corrupt, not just ATF and DOJ but the entire alphabet.
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Re: Armed ATF Agents Going Door To Door To Seize FRTs
What I think is most critical is how the entire Congressional and Judicial Branches deal with this type of behavior en masse. Federal agents harassing and attempting entrapment of citizens, violating their oaths, should bring hard prison time up and down the ladder.BigNate wrote: ↑May 10th, 2023, 10:36 amWatching how they proceed here will tell us a lot about what they will try next...cool arrow wrote: ↑May 10th, 2023, 3:02 am sounds like the ATF isn't letting FRT's go, they have lost on most other fronts, nut are doubling down on this one?
wonder why and what's next...
Them watching how people respond to what they are doing here will inform what they try to do next...
What is most critical is how the gun community responds to this, and how the federal courts rule on this sort of unconstitutional expansion of executive agency policy and authority...
Garland's continued corruption continues to go on unchecked....
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Re: Armed ATF Agents Going Door To Door To Seize FRTs
This happened in Scottsdale, correct?
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Re: Armed ATF Agents Going Door To Door To Seize FRTs
When they shut down an FRT manufacturer they get access to the customer shipping list, not to mention credit card receipts. I don't think any sort of federal NFA type of license is needed to make replacement triggers.
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Re: Armed ATF Agents Going Door To Door To Seize FRTs
oops, multiple duplicate posts.
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Re: Armed ATF Agents Going Door To Door To Seize FRTs
oops #2 - multiple duplicate posts
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Re: Armed ATF Agents Going Door To Door To Seize FRTs
FRT's still showing up on the "forfeiture" list. The last list I looked at was from February so still a hot item for them. Along with Glock machine guns (Glock switches?) Someone in AZ had a bunch seized.cool arrow wrote: ↑May 10th, 2023, 3:02 am sounds like the ATF isn't letting FRT's go, they have lost on most other fronts, nut are doubling down on this one?
wonder why and what's next...
https://www.forfeiture.gov/pdf/ATF/Offi ... cation.pdf
What's next? SBRs (or pistols with braces.) There are two EVO Scorpion pistols in the list. Confiscated from Lainey Graff in Hammond, IN. Search on her name and you get a result that says SBR and she's in custody. Unfortunately both links are behind paywalls so no details. If more of these start appearing in the list......
Apr 16, 2023 — HAMMOND — The U.S. Attorney is charging an Iowa woman with illegally possessing a short-barreled rifle. Lainey Graff is in federal custody ...
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Re: Armed ATF Agents Going Door To Door To Seize FRTs
At 6:42, “we don’t make the laws”, yup you phucking don’t.
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Re: Armed ATF Agents Going Door To Door To Seize FRTs
I wonder where he purchased his trigger from... that Gunbroker guy, or elsewhere... ?
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Re: Armed ATF Agents Going Door To Door To Seize FRTs
Hmmmm .....
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