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This morning, on ammoseek.com, cheapest Wolf is over 50 cents per round.

https://ammoseek.com/ammo/7.62x39mm
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oldslurrydog1 wrote: August 21st, 2021, 4:49 pm OMG! Are you people for real? If anyone on this board is panicking about ammo shortages/prices, powder, primer prices/shortages, your not doing it correctly.

I agree with King. It's all about control
What if I’m just irritated?
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Re: Biden State Department Bans Import of Russian Ammo and Firearms

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https://ammoseek.com/ammo/12-gauge?ss=slug

Slugs and 00 buck from Fetter are still at a doable price point.
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The steel wolf and Tula stuff hasn’t been all that cheap for a while. Not cheap enough to justify buying over brass IMO. I’ve found brass cased for not that much more. That will obviously change. Sucks to be an AK owner not.

But I do agree it’s a control thing. They won’t outright ban guns but you bet your ass they will make it harder and more expensive to exercise our right!
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Clinton did the same thing. ATF Couldn't legally deny the permit applications so, he too used the State Department to deny the actual imports ... except for one of his large donors who had an active permit throughout the ban and made millions, a large portion of which went to Slick and Cankles. You can rest assured that one of China Joe's friends or family still has an active permit and will bring in billions of rounds (billions with a B) and funnel a large portion of the profits to the Biden Crime Family.
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DevilDocAZ wrote: August 22nd, 2021, 6:39 am
oldslurrydog1 wrote: August 21st, 2021, 4:49 pm OMG! Are you people for real? If anyone on this board is panicking about ammo shortages/prices, powder, primer prices/shortages, your not doing it correctly.

I agree with King. It's all about control
What if I’m just irritated?
Then change your tampon and take a midol
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oldslurrydog1 wrote: August 22nd, 2021, 5:05 pm
DevilDocAZ wrote: August 22nd, 2021, 6:39 am
oldslurrydog1 wrote: August 21st, 2021, 4:49 pm OMG! Are you people for real? If anyone on this board is panicking about ammo shortages/prices, powder, primer prices/shortages, your not doing it correctly.

I agree with King. It's all about control
What if I’m just irritated?
Then change your tampon and take a midol
Sage advice. 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣🤣😂
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The other joker in this deck is that Biden want Putin to pay reparations to Navalny for "using chemical weapons" against him (alleged poisoning with NOVICHOK) as part of the deal to remove the sanctions. None of the media reports this but, Navalny is a George Soros stooge tied to his operations in eastern Europe to undermine democracies there.

Biden, Clinton and Obama, the most corrupt administrations in US history.
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Thank you for subscribing to the SGAmmo.com newsletter. If you have trouble viewing this email you can see the newsletter at this link: Bulk Ammo In Stock With Free Shipping and My Russian Ammo Sanction Opinion
There has been a lot of people asking me about the sanctions on Russian ammo imports put in place by the US state department this past week and what it means for the future of ammunition supplies. There will be more clarity in several weeks when we can see the publication of a Federal Register notice expected on September 7, 2021. The state department announcement can be seen at this page - https://www.state.gov/fact-sheet-united ... y-navalny/
My Russian Ammo Sanction Opinion - First, I hope you don't 'shoot the messenger' and I'd like to pat everyone on the back and tell them things are going to be okay but that wouldn't be truthful. In my opinion the sanctions are a major game-changer in the ammunition supply chain that is already strained. For the time being and based on what we can see so far, we believe that this will be the effective end of Russian made ammo in the USA as it plays out over the next year or so as import permits expire or are filled to the quantity limits, and in doing so eliminate supply of a huge portion of the ammo in the US commercial market. From what I understand, the USA commercial market consumes around 800,000,000 rounds of ammunition from Russia every year, roughly 800 semi truck trailers worth in a mix of the most popular calibers. For the immediate short term we expect ammo to keep coming in from Russia but I expect the importers to raise prices substantially which is understandable to me given its the end of the lifespan for their business model. The calibers we believe will be most effected are soviet metric calibers like 7.62x39, 5.45x39, and 7.62x54R because there is almost zero available manufacturing capacity for these calibers outside of Russia and what little exists will not make a significant impact in filling the needs of the USA commercial market without Russian ammo absorbing the lion's share. In addition to these calibers, I estimate that the Russians supplied 30% to 40% of the 223 Rem / 5.56 and 9mm Luger consumed at the shooting ranges across this country, and large portions of the 45 auto, 9x18 Makarov, 30 carbine, 308 Winchester / 762x51, 380 Auto, 300 Blackout and 6.5 Grendel. I see this as a potentially devastating blow to the supply for of 223 Rem / 5.56 and 9mm Luger, where the reduction in supply from Russia will be difficult to make up in the short term for other manufacturers who have already been unable to keep up with demand this past year. Consumers who have used Russian ammo regularly will have to move on from Russian made ammo to those other products made elsewhere and in doing so absorb the supply and prolong recent shortages. Again this is my opinion, based on my knowledge of the industry after 20+ years experience, and how things play out over time could be different. For me, selling Russian made ammo is about 40% of my business, and while we plan to source as much supply as we can from other sources, we do expect this to have a major negative impact on supply for 7.62x39, 7.62x54R, 5.45x39, 9mm Makarov, 9mm Luger, 223 Rem / 5.56 NATO, as well as the other mentioned calibers.
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Re: Biden State Department Bans Import of Russian Ammo and Firearms

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Buddy told me Cabela’s has Wolf 7.62x39 for 50¢ Per round plus tax.


If anyone needs some.
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DevilDocAZ wrote: August 25th, 2021, 7:17 pm Buddy told me Cabela’s has Wolf 7.62x39 for 50¢ Per round plus tax.


If anyone needs some.
Last week it was 25-30 cents per round.
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So I hear that current orders by US distributors are still being allowed to come in. But no new orders are allowed. Hopefully those shipments will keep supply going until we can up the imports from the numerous other countries in that region
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^^&
Are there countries will tons of ammo just sitting in their warehouses, who haven't been shipping to the US? Or selling their inventory to other countries? If there is an alternate source of supply, where has it been up to now? If we haven't been getting ammo from those places before, why will we start to get it now?
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