Outstanding composure, demeanor, AND marksmanship!
43 YARDS!
Tucson PD BRINGS IT!
- smithers599
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Re: Tucson PD BRINGS IT!
At 43 yards, he got 1 hit out of 5 shots. That is not "great" marksmanship, but it ain't bad. A good part of it was luck. He wasn't trying for a head shot; that was luck. That said, your luck improves when you are good. 43 yards is a hellaciously difficult shot with a pistol, so 1 hit out of 5 is what I would consider evidence of very good marksmanship.
(Note: he also had a perfect backstop -- a solid brick building -- so he knew his misses would not endanger anybody.)
I just got home from the range. (Yes, in the rain. If it ain't rainin', you ain't trainin'.) We shot at a steel silhouette at 75 yards, and were getting better than 50% hits, each of us trying to beat each other on the PACT timer. But those hits were all over the target, figuring a leg or arm shot at that distance is just fine. A great shot -- a Leatham or a Miculek or a Wilson -- expects 100% hits, and their head shots are intentional, not flukes. But anybody who can get any hits at all at 43 yards -- especially on the street and not on the range -- is a good shooter.
Where I really think this guy excelled is in the mental conditioning. Sometimes when you listen to a radio call, it sounds like a teenage girl at a boy band concert. This guy "sounded like he was ordering a pizza", which is the ideal. One of Jeff Cooper's Seven Principles of Personal Defense is Coolness, and man, he had that down.
I agree; cojones of steel. Give that man a medal.
(Note: he also had a perfect backstop -- a solid brick building -- so he knew his misses would not endanger anybody.)
I just got home from the range. (Yes, in the rain. If it ain't rainin', you ain't trainin'.) We shot at a steel silhouette at 75 yards, and were getting better than 50% hits, each of us trying to beat each other on the PACT timer. But those hits were all over the target, figuring a leg or arm shot at that distance is just fine. A great shot -- a Leatham or a Miculek or a Wilson -- expects 100% hits, and their head shots are intentional, not flukes. But anybody who can get any hits at all at 43 yards -- especially on the street and not on the range -- is a good shooter.
Where I really think this guy excelled is in the mental conditioning. Sometimes when you listen to a radio call, it sounds like a teenage girl at a boy band concert. This guy "sounded like he was ordering a pizza", which is the ideal. One of Jeff Cooper's Seven Principles of Personal Defense is Coolness, and man, he had that down.
I agree; cojones of steel. Give that man a medal.
- pneuby
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Re: Tucson PD BRINGS IT!
It looked to me like the perp also had a wound at his lower left abdomen, even though the
ASP pair didn't see it/mention it.
LOL, I KNEW someone would contend with 1 outta 5
(On an M&P sponge trigger, no less, unlikely tricked out,
as that's how P.D. policies normally roll.. .)
We have no idea, but I would wager that.....
...the cop had to be amped-up after the chase, and from impact of the crash...
...the miscreant was running/hustling in SOME manner..not stationary....
ASP pair didn't see it/mention it.
LOL, I KNEW someone would contend with 1 outta 5
(On an M&P sponge trigger, no less, unlikely tricked out,
as that's how P.D. policies normally roll.. .)
We have no idea, but I would wager that.....
...the cop had to be amped-up after the chase, and from impact of the crash...
...the miscreant was running/hustling in SOME manner..not stationary....
- smithers599
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Re: Tucson PD BRINGS IT!
All things considered, 1 out of 5 is damn fine.
- Doc
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Re: Tucson PD BRINGS IT!
That guy has 6 female children because no one is that cool and calm
The kids at McDonald’s are more difficult to understand on a radio.
The kids at McDonald’s are more difficult to understand on a radio.
- xerts1911
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Re: Tucson PD BRINGS IT!
https://www.azfamily.com/news/deadly-em ... id=1038212
Tucson EMT has passed
Tucson EMT has passed
- xerts1191
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Re: Tucson PD BRINGS IT!
https://www.atlantanewsmedia.com/2021/0 ... he-attack/
Didn’t see this getting covered by the media much, hmmm
Didn’t see this getting covered by the media much, hmmm
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Re: Tucson PD BRINGS IT!
Exactly. Taking into account all the variables, I'd say he absolutely killed it (no pun intended). Critics gonna critique, I guess. It's just too bad he did so much damage before they got to him. RIP to all those lost.pneuby wrote: ↑July 25th, 2021, 3:04 pm It looked to me like the perp also had a wound at his lower left abdomen, even though the
ASP pair didn't see it/mention it.
LOL, I KNEW someone would contend with 1 outta 5
(On an M&P sponge trigger, no less, unlikely tricked out,
as that's how P.D. policies normally roll.. .)
We have no idea, but I would wager that.....
...the cop had to be amped-up after the chase, and from impact of the crash...
...the miscreant was running/hustling in SOME manner..not stationary....