ROGUE ATF AGENTS ARE CRACKING DOWN ON LEGAL GUNS IN ANTICIPATION OF BIDEN ADMINISTRATION
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ROGUE ATF AGENTS ARE CRACKING DOWN ON LEGAL GUNS IN ANTICIPATION OF BIDEN ADMINISTRATION
The ATF did raid or show up at other companies that sell other kits that include 80% part kits, barrels, and slides that are not Polymer80. AmmoLand News sources inside the ATF say that the agency is now considering 80% kits with all the parts needed to finish a pistol as a firearm. None of the companies had any warning on the change to ATF’s regulations before actual agents showed up making attempts to retrieve customer information.
https://gunsinthenews.com/as-atf-goes-r ... ency-head/
https://gunsinthenews.com/as-atf-goes-r ... ency-head/
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Re: ROGUE ATF AGENTS ARE CRACKING DOWN ON LEGAL GUNS IN ANTICIPATION OF BIDEN ADMINISTRATION
I read that they also seized all sales records at Polymer 80, and some of those customers have already been visited.
I would expect that ATF is sifting through those records, looking for identifiable felon purchasers. Upon finding those, and tracking them down, they will likely be selected to be the cases they will bring forth to showcase the "why" the legislation soon to be proposed is supposedly necessary. The timing is important. So, in order to have such prosecutions ongoing at or about the same time as the legislation is being proposed during the spring session, ATF has to get their butts in gear now. This timing is purposeful.
I would expect that ATF is sifting through those records, looking for identifiable felon purchasers. Upon finding those, and tracking them down, they will likely be selected to be the cases they will bring forth to showcase the "why" the legislation soon to be proposed is supposedly necessary. The timing is important. So, in order to have such prosecutions ongoing at or about the same time as the legislation is being proposed during the spring session, ATF has to get their butts in gear now. This timing is purposeful.
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Re: ROGUE ATF AGENTS ARE CRACKING DOWN ON LEGAL GUNS IN ANTICIPATION OF BIDEN ADMINISTRATION
I define a legal firearm as any type of man portable weapon designed to discharge any type of projectile regardless of size, length, caliber, method of propulsion, rate of fire in any fire control position, including full automatic, as legal for any person currently residing within the borders of the united StatesAZ1182 wrote: ↑December 13th, 2020, 6:23 pm Depends on where one sits as far as "legal" is being defined as. Not a serial, not legally purchased using the current systems in place, is most likely why this is being done by the ATF.
If anyone get's triggered by what In said, I spoke the message, not an opinion, so simma down please. I did NOT say where I stood on this so that's on YOU and not me for not being able to read critically and instead is doing so, emotionally.
I define legal possession of such weapon as any person not currently incarcerated for a crime that involves a specific victim, not including "the state", which is still incarcerated for said crime. Once freed, all rights restored without question or petition!
I fully support the abolition of the ATF simply because the constitution does not prescribe there existence!
Does that sum up what you wanted to say?
The time to grow a pair is now. If you're on the fence cause some meth head may get a gun while real criminals just stole an election right in front of you, and are laughing at you, the real problem is you!
It's time to be ungovernable
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Re: ROGUE ATF AGENTS ARE CRACKING DOWN ON LEGAL GUNS IN ANTICIPATION OF BIDEN ADMINISTRATION
This is the ATF determination letter on Polymer 80's site.
https://www.polymer80.com/CMS-Images/ATF-DetLetters.pdf
From what I read,they have ATF verification ,their products are not fireaem receivers or firearms.
https://www.polymer80.com/CMS-Images/ATF-DetLetters.pdf
From what I read,they have ATF verification ,their products are not fireaem receivers or firearms.
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Re: ROGUE ATF AGENTS ARE CRACKING DOWN ON LEGAL GUNS IN ANTICIPATION OF BIDEN ADMINISTRATION
Remember, this is the same ATF responsible for thousands of illegal firearms hitting the streets in Mexico and the US and responsible for the death of hundreds, if not thousands of Mexicans, dozens of American and at least one Federal Agent.
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Re: ROGUE ATF AGENTS ARE CRACKING DOWN ON LEGAL GUNS IN ANTICIPATION OF BIDEN ADMINISTRATION
Yeah this is legit scary stuff. If they keep pushing the envelope I don’t think I like where this is eventually going to end up.
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Re: ROGUE ATF AGENTS ARE CRACKING DOWN ON LEGAL GUNS IN ANTICIPATION OF BIDEN ADMINISTRATION
Your original post was pointless and maybe you should read what the above post you quoted actually meant.AZ1182 wrote: ↑December 13th, 2020, 10:12 pmYou wasted that no nobody. You in effect, got triggered and chose to go on the offensive, at someone that was neither against you nor with you, and was only posting a message from an apolitical point of view.Hunter wrote: ↑December 13th, 2020, 9:55 pmI define a legal firearm as any type of man portable weapon designed to discharge any type of projectile regardless of size, length, caliber, method of propulsion, rate of fire in any fire control position, including full automatic, as legal for any person currently residing within the borders of the united StatesAZ1182 wrote: ↑December 13th, 2020, 6:23 pm Depends on where one sits as far as "legal" is being defined as. Not a serial, not legally purchased using the current systems in place, is most likely why this is being done by the ATF.
If anyone get's triggered by what In said, I spoke the message, not an opinion, so simma down please. I did NOT say where I stood on this so that's on YOU and not me for not being able to read critically and instead is doing so, emotionally.
I define legal possession of such weapon as any person not currently incarcerated for a crime that involves a specific victim, not including "the state", which is still incarcerated for said crime. Once freed, all rights restored without question or petition!
I fully support the abolition of the ATF simply because the constitution does not prescribe there existence!
Does that sum up what you wanted to say?
The time to grow a pair is now. If you're on the fence cause some meth head may get a gun while real criminals just stole an election right in front of you, and are laughing at you, the real problem is you!
It's time to be ungovernable
Good job, buddy.
I suggest next time, you actually read. Slowly. So slow that you can finally figure it out that my post was not taking sides, and only using rationale thought deduction. I even had to type it out that my post was apolitically a message and not my stance, and still I have to explain it to someone. SMH...wow.
Now if you wanted to hear my opinion, how about you actually ask? Because instead of using a manufactured straw man to go off at me, whose "crime" is posting what possibly was happening from an unbiased and insightful POV, you chose to make an assumption based on failed reading comprehension of what I had said.
FYI: I never said it was wrong or right, 'lil fella.
As for where you stand on the issue, I don't give a care where you side on this. Pro or against, you're allowed your opinion. Just as I'm allowed mine. However in this case, I NEVER GAVE MY OPINION ON IT.
Next time, don't try so hard to war with your own side, or is eating our own a winning strategy for some here? That's a bold move I must say. Let's see how it pans out when a call to action is made and bodies needed, and see who shows up and whom does not. Hint, now is not the time to fight people over self imagined slights that never occurred.
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Re: ROGUE ATF AGENTS ARE CRACKING DOWN ON LEGAL GUNS IN ANTICIPATION OF BIDEN ADMINISTRATION
No I didn't. I triggered the $hit out of you. I was laughing my ass off typing that wondering how high I could get your "no opinion " blood pressure up too.AZ1182 wrote: ↑December 13th, 2020, 10:12 pmYou wasted that no nobody.Hunter wrote: ↑December 13th, 2020, 9:55 pmI define a legal firearm as any type of man portable weapon designed to discharge any type of projectile regardless of size, length, caliber, method of propulsion, rate of fire in any fire control position, including full automatic, as legal for any person currently residing within the borders of the united StatesAZ1182 wrote: ↑December 13th, 2020, 6:23 pm Depends on where one sits as far as "legal" is being defined as. Not a serial, not legally purchased using the current systems in place, is most likely why this is being done by the ATF.
If anyone get's triggered by what In said, I spoke the message, not an opinion, so simma down please. I did NOT say where I stood on this so that's on YOU and not me for not being able to read critically and instead is doing so, emotionally.
I define legal possession of such weapon as any person not currently incarcerated for a crime that involves a specific victim, not including "the state", which is still incarcerated for said crime. Once freed, all rights restored without question or petition!
I fully support the abolition of the ATF simply because the constitution does not prescribe there existence!
Does that sum up what you wanted to say?
The time to grow a pair is now. If you're on the fence cause some meth head may get a gun while real criminals just stole an election right in front of you, and are laughing at you, the real problem is you!
It's time to be ungovernable
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Re: ROGUE ATF AGENTS ARE CRACKING DOWN ON LEGAL GUNS IN ANTICIPATION OF BIDEN ADMINISTRATION
ROGUE??? This is BATF SOP...
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Re: ROGUE ATF AGENTS ARE CRACKING DOWN ON LEGAL GUNS IN ANTICIPATION OF BIDEN ADMINISTRATION
Jesus f*** Christ, the senseless bickering in these threads on these forums is why we continue to fight such a losing battle.
Too busy cirlce jerking and bullshitting each other, while millions of other people and rouge organizations are all just nodding their head in agreement saying "whatever, they'll all be banned eventually"
Too busy cirlce jerking and bullshitting each other, while millions of other people and rouge organizations are all just nodding their head in agreement saying "whatever, they'll all be banned eventually"
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Re: ROGUE ATF AGENTS ARE CRACKING DOWN ON LEGAL GUNS IN ANTICIPATION OF BIDEN ADMINISTRATION
Girls, girls- you're both pretty.
Now can we go on hating the government and those who support inane gun laws?
See, we can find common ground and agree.
I love how we are all fighting the same war, but gotta get mired down in our own battles.
Now can we go on hating the government and those who support inane gun laws?
See, we can find common ground and agree.
I love how we are all fighting the same war, but gotta get mired down in our own battles.
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Re: ROGUE ATF AGENTS ARE CRACKING DOWN ON LEGAL GUNS IN ANTICIPATION OF BIDEN ADMINISTRATION
lol, yeah the king only can be one troll is a pia
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Re: ROGUE ATF AGENTS ARE CRACKING DOWN ON LEGAL GUNS IN ANTICIPATION OF BIDEN ADMINISTRATION
It's funny hearing that from you when you are notorious for condescension and sowing discord here.AZ1182 wrote: ↑December 17th, 2020, 10:53 pm The troll took a very benign post that was giving a neutral perspective, and turned it into a 10 of what it was never supposed to be.
We need less toxic trolls, and more standing together without trying to eat each other that absolutely changes NOTHING. But the problem with that? One side wants "my way of doing it or the highway" and this is a fatal approach. This is a culture war of hearts and minds, and going after people that gave apolitical POV (that was already pro gun), is not winning my heart or mind over.
These anti 2A's are just as bad as the our own that have chosen to be toxic. This place needs less going after supporters of the AR15 regardless of how one feels about braces good or bad, and more thinking of ways to unite and organizing and getting our neighbors to start doing things, like donating to GoA and our own ACDL.
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Re: ROGUE ATF AGENTS ARE CRACKING DOWN ON LEGAL GUNS IN ANTICIPATION OF BIDEN ADMINISTRATION
+1.tlieberman240 wrote: ↑December 17th, 2020, 7:15 pm Jesus f*** Christ, the senseless bickering in these threads on these forums is why we continue to fight such a losing battle.
Too busy cirlce jerking and bullshitting each other, while millions of other people and rouge organizations are all just nodding their head in agreement saying "whatever, they'll all be banned eventually"