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Re: New gun control bills coming

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azrik wrote: January 8th, 2021, 8:30 pm
paulgt2164 wrote: January 8th, 2021, 7:17 pm This is only the start - and the lackadaisical dismissal of these getting anywhere is not the right attitude to have.

Doesn't take much effort to e-mail/call/letter those involved.

Complacency is the quickest way to lose what little rights we have.
Trump just got smile f*** by the most conservative bunch he could find in DC and you think emails and letters will get you something other than on a shortlist with them...
You must've missed the tens of thousands of comments sent to the ATF regarding pistol braces, leading to them dropping the issue (for the time being) and pulling back on it.

As mentioned; it isn't hard to take a couple minutes and say something. The complacency within the gun community and NRA is a big part of how so many battles have already been lost over the recent years.

Those who aren't willing to pick up a pen, surely won't be willing to pick up a rifle.


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tlieberman240 wrote: January 8th, 2021, 9:32 pm
azrik wrote: January 8th, 2021, 8:30 pm
paulgt2164 wrote: January 8th, 2021, 7:17 pm This is only the start - and the lackadaisical dismissal of these getting anywhere is not the right attitude to have.

Doesn't take much effort to e-mail/call/letter those involved.

Complacency is the quickest way to lose what little rights we have.
Trump just got smile f*** by the most conservative bunch he could find in DC and you think emails and letters will get you something other than on a shortlist with them...
You must've missed the tens of thousands of comments sent to the ATF regarding pistol braces, leading to them dropping the issue (for the time being) and pulling back on it.

As mentioned; it isn't hard to take a couple minutes and say something. The complacency within the gun community and NRA is a big part of how so many battles have already been lost over the recent years.

Those who aren't willing to pick up a pen, surely won't be willing to pick up a rifle.
I never understood the mentality of doing nothing when doing something takes such little effort.

Doing nothing accomplishes nothing 100% of the time. Even if doing something has a 1% chance of working - that is infinitely a better result.

The biggest problems with the gun community is the percentage of those who won't do even the smallest thing to try to preserve what we have left, and the nearly rabid levels of the community eating itself over the stupidest s***.

I was appalled by how slowly people started commenting on the most recent brace issue on the ATF's open comment system. These dingles can spend 4 hours a day arguing and name calling over calibers, who is more "operator," and complaining about existing laws - yet can't take literally a minute and a half to add their voice to a conversation that may be worth something.

People say the dumbest stuff like "well if I send letters, emails, or comment then they know who I am, or that I might have stuff." If you are ignorant enough to think any combination on known and unknown three letter agencies don't know enough about you to figure out that your a "gun person" then you are the kind of stupid the short bus wouldn't even pick up. I probably have a dedicated geosynchronous satellite pointed at my house on the sole basis of my amazon shopping history.
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Yeah, it's pretty ridiculous.

It's really not hard to see why 2A rights have been such a losing battle for so long when you step back and look at it. Add to the fact that the political left have a pretty good grasp on hollywood, big tech, education system and so on... and I'm honestly shocked sometimes that we still have anything at this point.

Culture is upstream of politics, and there's a lot of push in culture saying that any and all guns are bad, and so are the people who have any of them.
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For the longer term (Bills becoming law) we can only hope that they are unable to stack the supreme court and that the 3 justices T replaced will support 2a. My immediate concern is that BATF will begin acting immediately on some sort of executive order. The other concern is they will manufacture anti-2a support in some way or another.
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Full text for HR 127 has been released

More info here:
https://www.firearmspolicy.org/stop_hr_127
https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-con ... l/127/text

Share with your friends/family. Contact your reps. If this gets the same (or better) response as the brace situation that recently came up, then I don't see why this can't also be stopped dead in its tracks.
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Flash wrote: January 8th, 2021, 10:40 am
Joelafives wrote: January 8th, 2021, 9:40 am
QuietM4 wrote: January 7th, 2021, 11:43 pm
...they should make it illegal to sell a gun under the big freeway sign at Bass Pro.
hey that's my spot!
My spot too.
:clap: :clap: :lol:
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Lots of “Take Action” mail coming from AZCDL, NRA, GOA, make sure you take the time fill them out and send
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Joelafives wrote: January 8th, 2021, 9:40 am
QuietM4 wrote: January 7th, 2021, 11:43 pm
...they should make it illegal to sell a gun under the big freeway sign at Bass Pro.
hey that's my spot!
Over in the boat yard across from
BBQ joint with easy exit.
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wont work in az why are you worried?
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/0 ... uns-video/
Dems know guns aren’t really the problem
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curtmini14 wrote: June 15th, 2021, 4:34 am wont work in az why are you worried?
ATF doesn't care about state laws. Supremacy Clause.
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QuietM4 wrote: June 28th, 2021, 3:56 pm
curtmini14 wrote: June 15th, 2021, 4:34 am wont work in az why are you worried?
ATF doesn't care about state laws. Supremacy Clause.
More like Wickard V Filburn SCOTUS decision.


Have a great, gun carryin', Kenpo day

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