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Survivors of the "Paradise" fire

Posted: November 25th, 2018, 9:42 am
by smithers599
https://www.sacbee.com/news/state/calif ... 80400.html

Interesting article, mentioning things of interest to this forum: food in freezers powered by generators, exploding ammunition, etc. Sometimes, when the schumer hits the fan, the breakdown is not 100%, all across the country or the world. Fuel for generators and vehicles, canned food, etc. may be available from outside the affected area. Prepping and having a self-reliant mindset still come in handy.

Re: Survivors of the "Paradise" fire

Posted: November 25th, 2018, 1:15 pm
by knockonit
boy howdy what a bummer, whole town gone, kinda weirde that a whole lotta trees look untouched, and a few other buildings, guess maybe old brown boy will be justifying why no fire protection for the tax paying citizen, but sure do have lotsa shelters and hand outs for the wets. what a shame, whole history of town gone. let alone loss of life, sad day indeedy
Rj

Re: Survivors of the "Paradise" fire

Posted: November 26th, 2018, 7:00 am
by Steve_In_29
knockonit wrote: November 25th, 2018, 1:15 pm boy howdy what a bummer, whole town gone, kinda weirde that a whole lotta trees l ... uildings, guess maybe old brown boy will be justifying why no fire protection for the tax paying citizen, but sure do have lotsa shelters and hand outs for the wets. what a shame, whole history of town gone. let alone loss of life, sad day indeedy
Rj
From what another person that was there said, the sparks were being driven by the winds and not floating down. Once they catch a house the one next to it goes and the one after that and so on. The ones that appear untouched seem to have a bit of separation from the others.

Brown had vetoed bi-partisan legislation on thinning the forests and properly managing them to avoid fires like this.

Re: Survivors of the "Paradise" fire

Posted: November 26th, 2018, 10:46 am
by smithers599
The interesting thing to me from a "survival/prep" standpoint is that I usually imagine the SHTF scenario as total social breakdown. This report reminds me that sometimes the stored food/water/etc., and the self-reliance/survival mindset and skillset can come in handy when the breakdown is only local. Note the reference to the "redneck underground" that smuggles in food, and the observation that the police are not there to help you; they are there to arrest you. Also that if you "bug out" but then decide to "bug in" and get back to your stored supplies, you may have to sneak in the back way.

The cause of this particular fire is irrelevant to the planning. Could have been flood, tornado, pandemic, civil insurrection -- anything. Partial self-reliance beats total reliance on others.

Re: Survivors of the "Paradise" fire

Posted: November 26th, 2018, 8:34 pm
by Super Trucker
disregard

Re: Survivors of the "Paradise" fire

Posted: November 26th, 2018, 8:49 pm
by Ballistic Therapy
When the Catalinas burned in 2003. It completely destroyed some places and some were left untouched.
Sumerhaven was devastated but where some cabins burned one right next to it went untouched.
There were places where everything around was ashes and an old wooden cabin was left standing untouched.
Down the backside of the mountain it looked like a moonscape with nothing but ashes for miles.
Then there would be a patch of an unburned area.
Forest fires are very unpredictable and strange things happen.

I was remodeling two cabins in Somehaven for a client when it happened.
I had been working on them for over a year.
They were both burned to nothing but ashes.
The cabin right across the dirt road and uphill from these was untouched.