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If you and your family were wrenched from the comforts of the present and hurled back into a previous era, you might not fare so well either. Your survival odds would probably be a little better since you have hindsight and an understanding of germ theory. However, it would still be a pretty alien world for you. It would be littered with pitfalls that most modern people can’t even imagine.

1) All electronic based commerce will cease
2) Internet based Communications and gizmos will stop working
3) Without electricity, all forms of fuel that our society relies on will stop flowing.
4) unless on a well with a manual pump, many of those farms will lack water, as will your plumbing.
5) When the grocery stores are stripped bare, the pharmacies won’t be far behind.
6) Within a year more than 50% of the US population will die without the above items

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Try 90% mortality.

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I guess Bitcoin disappears and gas pumps will not work?

Ehhh. I lived through a pretend pandemic led by a nefarious dwarf. I’ll be fine.

APS would never let something like that happen. There is too much money to be lost if the grid goes down. The shareholders would have a fit.

shiat 40 years ago during monsoon, wed go without power for days even a week or so, could be a town line or a xformer, i still have oil lamps just in case, hehehe, if it happened now, there would be zillions of suicides for the idgets that can put their phone down to take a poop.
let 'm eat cake, oh wait can't cook one the electric is off.
Rj

The big benefit to all this is that we'd just have self-sufficient people left which means.......no more Democrats

knockonit wrote: ↑June 10th, 2021, 8:52 pm shiat 40 years ago during monsoon, wed go without power for days even a week or so, could be a town line or a xformer, i still have oil lamps just in case, hehehe, if it happened now, there would be zillions of suicides for the idgets that can put their phone down to take a poop.
let 'm eat cake, oh wait can't cook one the electric is off.
Rj

We lost power for about a week when I was living at 40th St/Bell from a microburst. Think it was 2014. Ran the fridge and deep freeze of a generator. Hot days and cold showers. Wasn't a "complete" experience though as power was on just about everywhere else.

When I was a kid in Kentucky it was pretty common to lose power for days at time. We had oil lamps and a wood stove though so it wasn't a really big deal.

But yes. If we lost power due to a cyber/EMP attack it'd get really bad really fast. Surviving without power would be half the battle, the other half would be fighting off the people who lose their minds.

just reposting since you know....Ukraine

Let "The Purge" begin

The experiences that y'all have been describing were localized outages. What Miker is putting forth is a GRID-WIDE outage. That would be entirely different that anything anyone here has been through.

Sure, an are can be resillient for a week or two,...as long there are still supplies that can be brought in. But if the entire Phoenix metro area lost power for more than 4 days;...holy hell,...90% of perishable food in the supply chain perishes. 90% of the water doesn't flow. Fuel pumps go dry, so private generators stop running.

A good set up would be grow your own food; garden, animals, eggs, hunt and fish have a well / 800 gallon water tank, several generators / solar, 600 gallon LP tank 200 gal. gasoline storage tank, off main roads with only one road into fenced compound seventy miles outside of any major metro areas. Perimeter alarm, solar surveillance cameras, NV/Thermal rifle scopes owned by a few prepper vets... This would improve the odds of survival... Oh and plenty of TP... lol

Miker12 wrote: ↑June 10th, 2021, 2:32 pm 3) Without electricity, all forms of fuel that our society relies on will stop flowing.

How does natural gas flow ?

Natural Gas’ Reliance on Electrical Grid
Another of the major flaws of Natural Gas grid is its dependency on the electric grid.

The gas grid relies on electricity. The gas grid requires that pressure must be maintained throughout the system. This pressure is maintained via a system of compressors and pumping stations.

The good news is that some of the main compressor stations, feeding the large interstate pipelines, are typically fueled by natural gas and generate their power with it, to keep operations running. Gas-fueled compressors could be more widely used throughout the system, but they are noisy and have environmental implications. So in urban areas, the gas distribution companies typically use electric pumps and compressors to bring gas to the consumer. It’s not hard to see where the problem lies here. No electricity, no gas supply.

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The prepared will survive and the weak (sheeple) will not. I fail to see a problem.